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December 21, 2010 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #593624mikehall12382Member
Is it healthy for your children to see their parents go on a date?How oftern do you go on a “Date” with your spouce? What do you like to do (dinner etc…)
December 21, 2010 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #720123WolfishMusingsParticipantIs it healthy for your children to see their parents go on a date?
IMHO, absolutely. It’s important for children to see that their parents love one another and enjoy spending time with each other. Not only does it help to increase their sense of stability of the family, they also see how spouses can and should interact with each other.
How oftern do you go on a “Date” with your spouce?
Sadly, due to the fact that we both (at the moment) have VERY busy schedules, not as often as we’d like.
What do you like to do (dinner etc…)
Dinner. A movie. A trip to the Botanic Gardens. A trip to the zoo. A day in Manhattan. A play. A surprise trip. Just walking in a park. A picnic. Sitting on the beach listening to the waves in the moonlight.
The Wolf
December 21, 2010 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #720124Trying my bestMemberWhat is a “date” (that you question if it is healthy they see)?
December 21, 2010 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #720125WolfishMusingsParticipantWhat is a “date” (that you question if it is healthy they see)?
Going out and spending time alone. He even gave an example (dinner).
The Wolf
December 21, 2010 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #720126mikehall12382MemberWhat is a “date” (that you question if it is healthy they see)?
Husband and Wife acting like a Husband and Wife. In love and affectionate, not just two people living like roomates…I think showing your children a healthy relationship will in turn help them have one as well…
December 21, 2010 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #720127Avram in MDParticipantmikehall – I think it is very healthy for children for their parents to go on dates, not just because it provides a good role model for healthy marriages, but because healthy communication between the spouses aids united parenting.
My wife and I have started working short dates into our schedule, since they can be done more frequently. We take walks outside. Once we went out for breakfast. It may not seem exciting, but the chance to have uninterrupted conversations is priceless.
December 21, 2010 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #720128mikehall12382MemberMarriage plays a central role in Judaism/halacha etc., making time for it seems like a logical thing to do….
December 21, 2010 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #720129ronrsrMemberWhen I was young I used to love to see my parents go out on the town. That was in a day when people would still dress up to go out. They would dress up, and he would look so handsome and she so sophisticatedly glamorous to me. They would stop at the door and have our babysitter take a photo of them. I would like to watch them as they went out the door. It was also very reassuring to me that they looked so happy with each other.
Also, the two boys who live with us (my stepson and a distant relative from Siberia who is living with us for two years) both grew up in broken and single-parent homes where there was only one parent or there was an unhappy marriage. We take every opportunity to show appropriate spousal affection in front of them both because it makes us happy, and in the hope that they will be able to translate that into happier marriages for themselves.
December 21, 2010 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #720130havesomeseichelMemberI recently read a book that spoke about the benefits for parents to spend time with each other alone. Firstly, it helps the parents unite better to provide a clear “theme” to their path of raising children. This helps the parents “regroup” to plan out the next stages in their life, the current tasks at hand ect. It also helps to have the parents solidify their “couple” relationship. They are not just “parents” but a “couple” and to have a successful marriage in all aspects, they need to enhance their relationship with each other. It also helps the children see that their parents love each other, and just like they love each other they love their children.
Just a couple of ideas….
December 21, 2010 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #720131oomisParticipantHealthy???? It is ESSENTIAL!!!!!!!! it is very important for kids to see that their parents have a life outside of being mom and dad, and that their parents care enough about each other to WANT to spend time alone. It a very healthy model for the children to emulate. My hubby and I go out every Friday morning (he is retired and his retirement job is M-Th only)for a shared tuna bagel (not to be confused with a Yeshivah bochur by that description)brunch, and in the warmer weather we try to make Tuesday nights date night (free concerts in the summer, or out for pizza, etc.) In the winter it is a litte harder to get me out of the house at night on a regular basis.
December 21, 2010 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #720132Derech HaMelechMemberoomis-
I’m so confused.
You and your husband eat yeshivah bochurim for brunch on Friday mornings?
That does not compute with my understanding of preparing for shabbos.
December 21, 2010 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #720133aries2756ParticipantIts called good “role modeling”!
December 21, 2010 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #720134WolfishMusingsParticipantMike,
Just out of curiosity, why would you have thought that it might be unhealthy that you felt the need to ask the question?
The Wolf
December 21, 2010 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #720135mikehall12382MemberEDITED
December 21, 2010 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #720136bptParticipantNot only that, I even let my kids observe “please” and “thank you”.
Role models, us BPers!
December 21, 2010 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #720138always hereParticipanthealthy, for sure (I agree with the above comments). My daughter & her DH go out on or around every Rosh Chodesh, usually for dinner.
December 21, 2010 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #720139Avram in MDParticipantmikehall12382:
So have you been disappointed by the response so far?
December 21, 2010 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #720140SJSinNYCMemberWe don’t do date night per se right now because the kids are young enough that we do “date night at home.”
When they get older and we need to find more “us” time, we’ll start going out again. Its also hard with little kids sometimes and being pregnant.
December 21, 2010 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #720141TheGoqParticipantyour daughter married a designated hitter?
December 21, 2010 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #720142WolfishMusingsParticipantyour daughter married a designated hitter?
Feh. That’s why I always dated in the National League. 🙂
The Wolf
December 21, 2010 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #720144aries2756ParticipantYOU GUYS, so the romantic in me (I know I am going to be accused of being an apikores TV watcher for being a romantic), thought she meant “Dear Husband”!
December 21, 2010 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #720145YW Moderator-80Memberthat is what was meant
des hitter was a joke
December 21, 2010 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #720146aries2756ParticipantI know, just teasing.
December 21, 2010 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #720147always hereParticipantI prefer ‘darling husband’ actually 😉
December 21, 2010 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #720148Trying my bestMemberWhat’s “DH” stand for?
December 21, 2010 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #720149smartcookieMemberThere is nothing more reassuring to children than seeing their parents love one another. It helps them thrive as they feel safe and secure.
December 21, 2010 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #720150ronrsrMemberthis could be a solution to the post-shidduch crisis!
December 21, 2010 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm #720151amichaiParticipantwe love to go to ganei yehoshua, near ramat gan. they have water and boating, large park, and walking area. we love feeding the ducks in the water. fun and relaxing and it gives us time to unwind from our busy schedules. kids are happy when the parents come back happy and relaxed.
December 22, 2010 12:07 am at 12:07 am #720152yeshivabochur123ParticipantHave to disagree here. I never saw my parents go out on a date or heard from them that they were going out, I assume they did, but I don’t see why the kids have anything to do with it. If I ever saw my parents acting affectionate with each other around us kids it made me feel uncomfortable, thats a private thing between a husband and wife, it doesn’t have to do with the kids. For your kids you are a mother or father!
December 22, 2010 2:14 am at 2:14 am #720153ronrsrMemberloving your wife is one of the best things you can do for your children.
December 22, 2010 2:38 am at 2:38 am #720154popa_bar_abbaParticipantPeople learn from their parents how to have a relationship. If they never see any warmth, they will not know how to do it themselves.
December 22, 2010 3:59 am at 3:59 am #720155psach libi bsorasechaMembermy mother once went to a speech and the rebbitzen speaking said “why is it that ppl aren’t scared to argue (and even fight) in front of their children, but they absolutely will not show affection toward their spouse in front of the children or spend time alone together….” why let the kids see the negative, and make the positive taboo? isn’t that a little backwards? are ppl “so holy” these days that a little affection is deemed not tznius?
December 22, 2010 4:04 am at 4:04 am #720156Shouldnt be hereMemberI am a 63 year old married 40 plus years and have never gone out with out my wife. The closest thing to going out are the drives to our “out of town” children, and the Friday night walks around the block. Why do you have to go out for quality time with your spouse wneh you live it? B”H our children are all happily married.
The only time I have seen a display of affection between my father A”H & ???? ????? my mother was once in his late 80s when Mother ???? came home from the hospital and he patted her hand.
I and the nevetheless knew what they felt for each other.
My childern know our feelings to each other without any overt displays.
December 22, 2010 4:19 am at 4:19 am #720157Trying my bestMemberWell said “Shouldnt be here”. Your 40 plus years of marriage can serve as an example for us all.
December 22, 2010 4:22 am at 4:22 am #720158smartcookieMemberOf course it’s not appropriate to display too much love between each others. The kids don’t feel comfortable.
But children must see that parents live happily and get along more than “nicely” and they should know that Totty and Mommy are a close knit
team.
December 22, 2010 4:34 am at 4:34 am #720159oomisParticipant“You and your husband eat yeshivah bochurim for brunch on Friday mornings?”
what can I say – when I tell them I want to have them for lunch, I mean it literally!
December 22, 2010 4:40 am at 4:40 am #720160Smile E. FaceMemberimho, it’s very necessary! 🙂 more than you think!
December 22, 2010 4:52 am at 4:52 am #720161ronrsrMemberdear Shouldn’t be here: were you affected at all by your father’s public display of affection towards your mother? It sounds like a poignant memory.
December 22, 2010 5:02 am at 5:02 am #720162smartcookieMemberShouldn’t be here-
I hate to break it to you, but friday night walks around the block are also a date night. You and your spouse taking a calm, quiet walk, that’s quality time.
December 22, 2010 5:11 am at 5:11 am #720163WolfishMusingsParticipantWell said “Shouldnt be here”. Your 40 plus years of marriage can serve as an example for us all.
TMB, does that mean that you’re opposed to the idea of married couples going out? Or am I misunderstanding you?
The Wolf
December 22, 2010 5:11 am at 5:11 am #720164ronrsrMemberI know my wife loves me, but I like it when she tells me or shows me.
December 22, 2010 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #720165Shouldnt be hereMemberwere you affected at all by your father’s public display of affection towards your mother? It sounds like a poignant memory.
1)It was not public there was no one else except myself & brother
2)Mother ???? was uncomfortable
3)I was a grandfather already then
What stayed in my memory was not such my fathers pat as mother’s discomfort. Father A’H was already on the decline in ?????
December 22, 2010 1:38 pm at 1:38 pm #720166SJSinNYCMemberAffection doesn’t have to mean literal physical affection. Seeing your parents treat each other nicely, with respect and enjoying each other is seeing affection. There are plenty of ways to show this.
Shouldntbehere, I bet if you thought about it, you would realize your parents showed plenty of affection.
December 22, 2010 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #720167Shouldnt be hereMemberThey did not show it they lived it. We sensed it without seeing it. They worshipped each other
December 22, 2010 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #720168SacrilegeMemberpsach libi
That is the best thing I have ever read on this site!
Personally, I wouldnt be able to marry someone who isnt openly affectionate. “Knowing” that someone loves you and them “showing” you that they do, is two totally different types of marriage, in my dumb un-married opinion.
December 22, 2010 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #720169The chamelonMemberTo quote an Adom Gadol
What they call ???? Torah calls ????
How those one “know” their spouse’s love?
By they way they interact in day to day living.
Isn’t that “showing”? How much more obvious do you need to be?
If your spouse values your opinion & feelings. Isn’t that “showing”?
etc etc etc.
A veteran of marital bliss
December 22, 2010 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #720170says whoMemberI don’t understand why many posters here are convinced that going out in needed, in order to show the kids that they are happy. I can promise that when there is a true happy marrige, the kids just feel it.
December 22, 2010 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #720172SJSinNYCMemberShouldn’t be here, that was my point. You did experience their affection.
Sacrilege, there are ways to show your spouse love and affection without being physical in front of others. Its dependant on the people and their relationships.
December 22, 2010 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #720173WolfishMusingsParticipantI don’t understand why many posters here are convinced that going out in needed, in order to show the kids that they are happy.
That’s not the only reason of course. Sometimes we go out just because we want to and enjoy each other’s company. It’s not *always* about the kids.
The Wolf
December 22, 2010 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #720174Avram in MDParticipantsays who:
I don’t think it’s about showing the kids that we’re happy. You are right, happiness and closeness is demonstrated by our everyday interactions. It does demonstrate that we view our spouse as top priority, however. It is also imperative for the parents to relate as spouses.
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