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Rabbi Bender is once again forging a new path. He is trying to create a fund to help Rabbeim pay for their smachot. The goal is to raise $1.6 million. All donations are matched at 3:1 – so for each dollar you donate, the fund ends up with $4. However, it’s an all-or-nothing deal – either they get the full amount, or they get nothing.
There are less than 4.5 hours left, and they are still about $450,000 short. That means they need pledges of about $112,500.
Help Rabbi Bender set a precedent with this – if it succeeds, other yeshivos will likely follow suit. Click on the link to donate!
https://www.charidy.com/darchei?utm_medium=banner&utm_source=ywn&utm_campaign=darchei
Mods, the link is on the YWN front page, so I assume it can go here as well.)
Keep in mind that this most likely not tax deductible
Why not?
Why wouldn’t it be tax deductible?
They reached their goal
I wouldn’t be surprised, Donald trump donated some money
You can look at their list of donators
Was there really any doubt that they’d not reach it? I doubt it.
Why wouldnt it be tax deductable?
If you give it to the Yeshiva, they are tax deductable and they can dispurse the money as they see fit
I wonder if they have a seperate fund land accounts for this.
Or will it be combined with the Yeshivas regular accounts.
“Rabbi Bender is once again forging a new path. He is trying to create a fund to help Rabbeim pay for their smachot.”
A commendable goal, but I know that there are Yeshivos that have already had such a program functioning for a while.
I know a Yeshiva that also has a program for the Morot as well.
A quarter of the funds ($100,000) were given by one individual. That is truly amazing. Keep it up!!!
I imagine Charidy has people like that set up before the campaign so they can keep their 100% success rate.
Mazel Tov to the Yeshiva. I’m sure the teachers could use the money, just like almost everyone else in Klal Yisroel who worries how to make overpriced and unnecessary simchos. I just wish that together with the campaign, they could implement ideas that would get costs under control (or stop from skyrocketing as much), such as using the Yeshiva as a free catering hall for faculty (if it isn’t already used as such).
🙁 (worried)
Who donated the 3-for-1 match and paid $3 for every $1 raised?
As a long time parent of YDT, as well as a grandparent, i can tell you that everything they do is on the up and up.
if they set up a simcha fund, then that’s what it will be. they wont co-mingle anything.
BTW – the fund is for Rabbeiim, Morot and Teachers.
“As a long time parent of YDT, as well as a grandparent,”
I don’t know otherwise, but you do seem to be their accountants or auditors.
I assume they have auditors because they have IDA bonds.
Paying for a wedding is not tax deductible. Simply using a yeshiva as a go between doesn’t kasher It. A local family was incurring huge Legal bills in a child custody issue, and asked people who wanted to help defray the cost to make the checks payable to a fund the shul set up for the purpose. The shul was informed that simply making the payments thru the shul did not make them deductible and closed the fund.
The Darchei fund is on the up and up. All I’m saying is that the donation might not be deductible. People deduct the full cost of Darcheis dinner, it doesn’t mean Darchei did anything wrong
While I have misgivings about raising tzdekah for this purpose (I think the money could have been put to better use, 1.6 Million is alot of money) but that is another issue
I dont think its a problem with tax deduction, You can give the yeshiva a donation and they are allowed to give bonuses to their employees for any reason , sort of like you are allowed to give the yeshiva a donation and they are allowed to pay salaries with the money, they can give a bonus and the employee can do what they want with the money, pay rent or pay for a wedding
LC, I think you’re wrong, although I’ll ask my accountant to double-check.
There’s nothing inherently non tax deductible about paying for a wedding, if a tax deductible organization is doing it for someone in need.
Paying for milk is similarly not tax deductible, but you would agree that if an organization collects and distributes money for the needy, and gives them or pays for the groceries, it is deductible.
I think you would be right in the case you cited. The family requested the donations go through the shul, and all such donations were earmarked for that family.
The Darchei fund has neither of these two elements. It’s Darchei requesting the donations, not the family, and donations go to this fund, controlled by Darchei, not earmarked for a specific recipient. They can give the money to whichever family they feel needs it.
The key here is who controls the donation. In your case, it’s the donor, and indeed, when the donor controls the money (by earmarking it), it’s not tax deductible. In this case, it’s Darchei, so it is tax deductible.
DY has it right.
If the funds were set up to benefit such as small group such that effectively it could only benefit one individual, that too, would be non deductible.
For instance, there was a blogger who said he was charitable because he collected contributions, which he said were deductible, because they were earmarked for Jewish Immigrants form Ethiopia to the US who need a liver transplant. That clearly could only benefit one individual and that blogger violated the law by issuing receipts saying the contribution was deductible. (thankfully that blogger no longer blogs, he was a blight on humanity)
ZD,
What do YOU think is a better use? The charitable donors clearly felt otherwise.
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What do YOU think is a better use?
Truthfully? To pay for weddings for people who the school knows don’t have any money, because they can’t pay tuition! Teachers could certainly be included if they are needy.
Call it a Darchei fund for needy members of the Darchei family. Seeing how Rabbi Bender does care, it wouldn’t shock me if that is on the table.
In addition, they could (and might be doing so) subsidize simchos in the Yeshiva, so that it costs less for people who need to make a simcha but can’t afford to do so.
There actually is a special fund run through Darchei which helps needy local families. It is fundraised separately than the regular yeshiva expenses.
GAW: if they can’t pay tuition, why not set up a tuition fund? Why wait till they make Chasunah?
GAW: if they can’t pay tuition, why not set up a tuition fund? Why wait till they make Chasunah?
My guess is (knowing from the Yeshiva in my area) that they already have a scholarship fund.
Rockaway Resident – There you go. There may already be enough there.
I have unfortuantly seen alot of Gofundme campaigns lately, some were undeserving but some were for such things as paying rent, Paying for funerals, Paying for hearing aids and some for paying tutition.
There is alot of need out there
Horav Dovid Ozeiri spoke about salaries in yeshivot at the Agudah convention.
Since that time, several Yeshivot have created Simcha Funds to help their staff.
so now YDT has done it. What is the BIG DEAL? why is everyone looking in someone Else’s pockets!
ITS TZEDAKA – if you want to give, fine! if not, BE QUIET !
I know Rabbi Bender for over 35 years. he is KULO LAHASHEM.
The RBSO has given him the siyatta d’shmaya and koach to direct the LARGEST NON CHASIDDIC BOYS SCHOOL in the USA.
Before Pesach he distributes THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in gift certificates to Bochurim to buy clothes for YT. in order not to embarrass anyone, EVERY BOCHUR gets called to his office,rich AND poor. And some of you question his integrity?
Lc,
The Darchei fund is on the up and up. All I’m saying is that the donation might not be deductible. People deduct the full cost of Darcheis dinner, it doesn’t mean Darchei did anything wrong
Darchei sends you a receipt of what you pay for the dinner, they don’t deduct their cost so I don’t see a reason why I should, especially since I don’t know the cost
Many charities tell you how much the dinner is and how much is deductable. I dont know much about Darchei, but the ones Ive gone to have said as much.
It might even be the law (even if some arent saying so)
CA,
There really is no reason why it wouldn’t be deductible.
As far as a dinner goes, when there is a benefit to the donor, there is supposed to be notification of the non deductible portion On either the solicitation or the receipt. (Unless it is a de minimus amount)
There is a specific question about compliance with this on the 990.
Darchei sends you a receipt of what you pay for the dinner, they don’t deduct their cost so I don’t see a reason why I should, especially since I don’t know the cost
Interesting, because my Yeshiva does state the cost for the meal on the receipt. Perhaps Darchei is different in that the dinner is in the Yeshiva, so there is no set “cost” that they can assign to the dinner?
shtusim – No disagreement here. Just to add something that struck me recently, in the Yated Chunich Forum. The parent wants to take the sons out of Yeshiva to visit his mother (the children’s grandmother) for Mother’s day (or Father’s day, I forget), but thinks the Yeshiva won’t let, so he lied and said they had a doctor appointment.
Rabbi Bender’s response: You should have told the truth, and if the Yeshiva said they are not allowed to leave, take them out anyway and find your children a new Yeshiva, as obviously the Yeshiva is not teaching your children good Middos.
Awesome!!
Gaw,
Yeah it’s in darchei and they use their kitchen
Additionally that answer from rabbi bender is puzzling given that rabbi bender doesn’t like kids to miss school for any reason (leaving early or coming back late from vacation for example)
I’m not referring to Darchei specifically but isn’t it hypocritical that Mosdos bash the internet until they need it to collect money?
Find me a mosad that says one can’t have internet under any circumstances and collects online, and then we’ll talk.
The YeshivaWorld as well as other frum web sites have been advertising the charidy campaign that is collecting for his granddaughter’s wedding expenses.
Hupat Ha’ir is all over the internet schnorring and HaRav Chaim Kanievsky “is quoted by HaMevaser as saying that there is no excuse to permit the internet for those claiming it is essential for a livelihood since rabbonim have already ruled the threats that are associated with the internet are simply too great and one must simply distance oneself from it.”
From my own experience. My son was initially rejected by a high school because he admitted on the interview that his parents allow him to use filtered internet. That same principal later on asked my son to navigate web sites to post the yeshivos shiurim.
I don’t think any of them hold filtered internet at one’s workplace is assur.
I also don’t know who Rav Vosners’s granddaughter’s rav is, or who is the rav of whoever started the campaign. Rav Vosners’s himself obviously didn’t allow it (although he might have, since someone could donate while at work).
I don’t believe R’ Chaim’s position is as presented.
There’s a difference between allowing a child to browse at home and performing a specific task under the principal’s supervision.
So far, 0-3.
There was a yeshiva in Monsey that sent out an anti-internet letter with the children (I think it was a boys schools)
There was an e-mail address on the letter and I typed in the domain name and it was a website to give money to the yeshiva
What did the “anti-internet” letter say precisely?
I’m quite sure it didn’t say that.
A key component in building a Bayit Neamna v-yisroel is creating and maintaining a Makom KOdesh. A home or workplace even with filtered internet is by no means an opitmal situation. We have heard from Rabbanim and roshe Yeshiva alike that over the last few years the problems they face from these devices are unprecidented
as per the Gedoli Yisroelthe rosh yeshiva and any member of the Kehila will be unable to attend the wedding who will have unfiltered internet in their house, Home , or on their phone/devices at work. (Extra care must be taken that phones are filted by TAG or anyone else approved by the Ichul Haklakl.It is strongly advised to avoid all smartphones
Below is (I couldnt read) for the bride and groom to accept these Takanos, It cannot be changed by either party regardless of the circumstances without explicit permission from the Rosh Yeshiva Shlita
Please note these takanos were written with care and concern for our talmidim to enhnace our home for generations to come
The letter had an e-mail address and the domain went to a page that accepted payment
They said it’s not optimal, not that its assur or that some people don’t need it.
I don’t see how you are making an issue out of this.
I said Anti-internet letter
It said the Rosh Yeshiva will not go to the wedding of a couple who have unfiltered internet including the Kallahs family who did not attend this yeshiva (Its clear it was a boys school)
You can donate with filtered internet.
So, really, had the fundraising total been $1.2 Million in the 24 hours, rather than the goal of $1.6 Million, does anyone seriously believe they’d have returned all the donations in their “All Or None” 24 hours campaign?
ZD,
Did you see the actual letter? Where did you get the language that you included in your post?
It was pretty much word for word copying from the actual letter, I did transliterate The hebrew into english letters like the word Shlita or Rosh Yeshiva and its possible I missed a word or 2
so did you see the actual letter?
Yes
Shtusim, noone is questioning Darchei.
As far as alternatives or additions to simcha fundraising, I would suggest the following,:
1. Low cost term life insurance for the rebbaim and their wives. Why the wives? A small policy to cover funeral expenses and child care.
2.Good health insurance .
Term Life insurance is not just for Rebbeim, ALL frum jews should have it
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