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By now, whatever Pollard gave over could have been made public anyhow. Not like the U.S. is going to admit what that was…
It could definitely hurt Pollard, since the extent to which Pollard could have sold or given away secrets to China is yet to be determined, and could come to light in classified materials Snowden had a “shaychus” to.
Pollard spied in the 80’s Almost 30 years ago. There is no connection between the two.
Rebdoniel, you are the first I have heard allege that Pollard gave anything to China.
RE: Pollard and China, see Ronald J. Olive, (2006). Capturing Jonathan Pollard: How One of the Most Notorious Spies in American History Was Brought to Justice. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press, p. 223, where he brings evidence that Pollard tole classified documents related to China on behalf of his wife, who used the information to advance her personal business interests and kept them around the house, where they were discovered by investigating authorities when Pollard’s espionage activity came to light.
Ironically, I read an article in the Jerusalem Report by Yossi Melman explaining how Israel is being overrun by Chinese spies. The Shin Bet is keeping a close eye on Chinese diplomats in Israel, especially in light of the fact that China is one of the main supporters of Iran and its nuclear regime (as evidenced by their shared membership on the SCO and other indicators), and just as China is committing cyber espionage against America, the Chinese in Israel operate with a variety of methods. They try to obtain data from open sources. They try to recruit and run agents in the most sensitive fields: military industries, the army and air force, the intelligence community and high-tech companies.
If Pollard did spy for China, it certainly didn’t end up being in Israel’s best interest. I do believe Pollard ought to be given clemency in light of proportionality concerns; Alger Hiss and other spies who did far worse were given lighter sentences. But Pollard isn’t the angel people paint him out to be.
HURT.
The need to send a message to those working for the government. And Pollard is even less sympathetic since he was in it (at least in part) for the money.
Rd the source you cite days the opposite of what you allege. That says Hr spied on China not for.
This can only hurt him. There are those who will actually BLAME Pollard for ostensibly setting a precedent for someone else who feels the US government is not divulging things that others have a right to know.
OOmis have you heard anyone make this conection?
Snowden has been allover the media Every angle seems to have been reported including is past girlfirends his upbringing etc…
I not once have heard any mentio of Pollard. Have you?
I dont get why people are trying to link the two? The two are in no way connected they involve different circumstances and an almost 30 year difference.
His wife also spied for China and benefited off that. At one point, when Pollard’s new wife was hoping to clinch a job interview at an international public relations firm with branches in China, he brought home five secret studies on China. Her presentation was assessed as brilliant.
China, as I wrote above, is committing espionage against Israel, has a history of aiding the Palestinians (I wrote an article for a magazine not too long ago on this topic, including the Bank of China’s support for Hamas terrorists), and is one of Iran’s closest allies, and there is compelling evidence Pollard helped China.
However, his 25 year sentence is excessive, as most others who spy for an ally get a maximum of 7 years.
No I haven’t heard – YET. But somehow, the goyishe velt somehow manages to make it always be about the dang Jews. Watch and wait -some anti-Semite will find a way to turn this on Pollard.
RD
Thank you
OOmis
For how long should I wait? I am definately not holding my breath
Wandering chana
LOL! He will get less jail time than Pollard and there will be no outcry. (other than from Young Israel etc)
What in the world is this thread about????
It makes no sense whatsoever!
The connection people are trying to make here is not long-winded, it is nonexistent.
Perhaps marginally hurt, but one really has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
“Not like the U.S. is going to admit what that was.”
The US still does not know what it was for sure, because Pollard refused to talk and Israel still hasn’t fessed up.
“However, his 25 year sentence is excessive, as most others who spy for an ally get a maximum of 7 years.”
Pollard’s sentence was life with a possibility of parole after ten years. But he has never applied for parole. He will be released on November 21, 2015, after serving 30 years. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spied for an ally and got the death penalty for that, so by that standard Pollard got off easy.
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