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I have heard that they do. Does anyone have more information on the issue?
Their history in 1980s had many similarities to Jewish history in 1940s.
Many people could. However, the standard assumption is that they were so interspersed in other nations and cultures that any remnant of what they once were was quickly eradicated.
With the exception of one T’shuvah in the Rishonim claiming the Ethiopians are from Shevet Dan, for the most part we assume any “lost tribes” were groups that were disconnected from the Jewish community at some point in Bayis Sheni or later.
As they are Aryans (Indo-Europeans) that is highly unlikely. Some Jews, not necessarily for the “ten lost tribes”, have lived in the region since ancient times (Afghanistan and Pakistan are adjacent to Iran/Persia, and for much of history were culturally or politically under Persian control). But to claim that a group is descended from Jews is a bit of a stretch, though most people in that region (as indeed, in most of the Middle East and Europe) have some Jewish ancestry and have had long term exposure to Jewish culture.
Slightly off-topic: Why do people always refer to the 10 lost tribes, when there should only be 9 lost tribes?
When the Rechavam’s kingdom was split, he kept Yehuda, Benyamin and Shimon (which was within Yehuda). Yerovam took Rueven, Yisaschar, Zevulun, Dan, Naftali, Gad, Ashar, Menashe, and Ephraim.
Levi was split across both Kingdoms.
Over 12 of the “lost tribes” have been found over the years in places ranging from North America, Japan, India and Africa. Over the years they would be lost through intermarriages, even if they had originally settled in these places.
There is opinon that I think Yermiyahu or Ezra (I forgot which one) brought members back from the “lost tribes”
Also Shimon was basically destroyed after Baal Peor and ceased to really be a tribe and Banjamin was destroyed at the end of Shoftim because of the Pelegesh
Shimon was also split.
zahavasdad,
Benyamin definitely made a comeback after the story of the Pilegesh. King Shaul, Mordechai and Esther, were from Benyamin.
Shimon was still a tribe after Baal Peor (albeit a smaller tribe).
HaLeivi,
Where was the rest of Shimon?
I think Rashi in vayichi says that the rest of shimon was spread out among the rest of the shvatim in order to teach and to be sofrim,
Shimon’s Nachlah was split. One part was together with Yehuda and the other was further north.
Why Pashtuns and not….let’s say….Basques?
I think we should take the matter more seriously…and perform genetic testing to determine if a group of people has any link to the jewish people. If we only rely on dubious anthropology, we’ll end up with half the third-world claiming to be Lost Tribes. That’s why I asked sarcastically,…why pashtuns, ethiopians, igbo, Bnei Menashe, Peruvian Indians,…..but not Basques, Swedes or Japanese?
Regarding Shevet Shimon, it states in Divrei Hayamim that when David became king he made Shimon leave Yehudah’s territory because Yehudah needed the space. (little known fact)
Although they originally were together, it did not remain that way.
Also, the pesukim in Milachim 1 clearly state that Achiya Hashiloni told Yeravam that Hashem said that He would take away ten tribes from Shlomo’s son. He ripped his new garment into twelve pieces (or twelve cuts – see mitzodos) and gave Yaravam 10, keeping two. Which represented Yehudah and Binyamin.
Also, they are always referred (correctly) as the ten tribes. The mishnah in Sandhedrin calls them the aseres hashvatim. Shimeon was part of the ten.
Jewishnes,
Thank you for the information from Divrei Hayamim. I never knew that. Can you give me the perek?
I knew about the nevua in Melachim and had the same question there.
If there were Jews from the missing shevatim in the area of Iran and Afghanistan, they would have joined the Jews who arrived in that area (as is well documented) after the destruction of Bayis Rishon. We are talking about only a century of so – not a long time. One should never expect to find “ten lost tribes” in an area with well documented Jewish settlments, since they wouldn’t have stayed lost once the exiles from the destrucition of Bayis Rishon moved into their neighborhood.
The word Pathan is a Pashto derivative of the original word Pithon, the great grandson of King Saul.
Their history in 1980s had many similarities to Jewish history in 1940s.
How very logical.
The siddur ha’gra says the lost tribes are beyond the Ganges River.
Is that the same as the Sambatyon river?
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-ten-lost-tribes-1
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