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    L. Normanson
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    Beware 53rd st corner 18th ave is a favorite spot for 66th precinct cops. Just got a cell phone ticket there this morning. Pulled out of a spot on 53rd – made a right turn on 18 – while preparing my headset – I saw the flashing lights… Forewarned is forearmed!

    #895686
    iced
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    What did you get a ticket for?

    #895687
    WolfishMusings
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    What did you get a ticket for?

    Just got a cell phone ticket

    … presumably for using it while driving.

    The Wolf

    #895688
    TheGoq
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    I agree with the op’s position that you should always follow the laws of the land no matter where you are, but seriously you were probably already on the phone while “preparing” your headset you did something wrong and got nabbed next time don’t break the rules.

    They are not preying they are doing their job protecting the lawful folks from law breakers like yourself.

    #895689
    yaakov doe
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    If you were operating a car and using the cell phone it was a well deserved ticket.

    #895690
    The little I know
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    I sympathize with you about getting caught, but that is expected – for good reason. Having seen so many people driving irresponsibly while talking on phones, I am frightened. It’s bad enough that there is a horrible percentage of drivers who are not capable of driving safely (underage, overage, under influence of alcohol, drugs, or medications, or distracted with the electronic gadgets such as CD players and radios and GPS). Now we should tolerate drivers being completely uninvolved in driving because they’re on the phone?

    The area of 53rd Street & 18th Avenue is jam packed with kids. Many families with young children live in the neighborhood. There is Viznitz Yeshiva right behind you. Yagdil Torah (Ger) one block to your right. Stolin one block to your left. The slightest distraction can ch”v cost a child’s life. I’d be happy if you beat the ticket but learn a lesson. But I’m glad you got caught.

    #895691
    2scents
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    Although I occasionally speed above the speed limit. However I never do so when I am in an area in which people (especially children) are.

    This might be off the topic, however is anyone familiar with the law regarding having a RADAR DETECTOR in NY?

    #895692
    iced
    Member

    Radar detectors are legal in NY.

    #895693
    Sam2
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    R’ Elyashiv says that one who talks on a cell phone while driving is a Rodef and that it’s Muttar to kill him to stop the car.

    #895694
    yungerman1
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    Sam2- I hope you are joking. But if you are not- I disregard most things that are said in the name of R’ Elyashiv, especially when it sounds a bit over the top as this does.

    #895695
    iced
    Member

    Sam: So I can kill all those girls I see talking ‘n driving?

    #895696
    REALIST
    Member

    1. 2SCENTS: While detectors are permitted in NY, radar ‘jammers’ are not.

    2. If 2scents was permitted to go ‘off topic’ a bit, I would like to as well.

    MOTHERS!

    PLEASE, FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILDREN (AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE INNOCENT DRIVER) DO NOT YAK ON THE PHONE WITH YOUR HEAD COCKED TO ONE SIDE TO HOLD THE PHONE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PUSHING YOUR CARRIAGE OUT (TO BEGIN CROSSING THE STREET) AS A LITMUS TEST TO SEE IF THE COAST IS CLEAR!!!

    RECENTLY, IT’S GOTTEN WORSE AS THEY ARE TEXTING INSTEAD OF TALKING.

    #895697

    The little I know

    +1

    Very well put.

    Sam2

    The last paragraph of an article (on a competing frum site) describing Rav Elyashiv’s statement states:

    When pressed for further explanation, Rav Elyashiv reportedly explained that the driver does not actually have a din of a rodef, but is very close to being a rodef.

    #895698
    The Frumguy
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    In which shtieble were they “preying”? I hope they made up the minyan.

    #895699
    TheGoq
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    I was walking down the street yesterday and someone walking towards me was texting he looked up like 10 seconds before we met but still put his head back down to text and if i had not spoken up he would have slammed right into me.

    #895700
    HaLeiVi
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    Sam, but is it Muttar Lehatzil Bimemono?

    #895701
    Sam2
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    ICOT and Yungerman: This is published Bishmo by his son-in-law in Chashukei Chemed (I believe the Shabbos one). I think it’s reliable. He says someone who causes an accident while talking and driving is Pattur to pay because Kim Lei Bid’raba Minei.

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