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September 1, 2011 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #599077AkivaKParticipant
I’ve lived in this neighborhood in Spring Valley for over 20 years. My neighborhood used to be Yeshivish. It’s not Chassidishe. The men rarely speak to me because I’m not a member of their group. My neighbor was doing illegal gas and sewer piping and plugged up our common drain. When I complained to their Rabbi who was new to our neighborhood, his answer was, “So we have to listen to schvartzers. Who needs a permit anyway? You don’t like, so move!”
They let their children zoom on their bicycles without helmets down a steep hill which is our street. I had to enclose our yard because they let them run around on shabbos and they ran into our yard leaving their nosh wrappers all over our yard. Now they only have trashed up our street. I’m sorry to say, it looks like the stereotypical trashy street that gentiles complain of at zoning hearings. Besides the kids crashing as they zoom down the hill, the cars drive 60 mph in a 30 mph zone while the parents are calling on their cell phone. This same Rabbi told me that Hashem has special angels that protect children. I think that he lacks commensense as do the parents and the drivers.
I was fixing my roof today and saw my neighbors toddler and 6 yr old child crawling in and out of several washing machines stored in their backyard. When I told her about it when she was shmoozing with the neighbor across the street, her response was “Mind your own business. They’re just having fun playing house.”
I warned her that just like refrigerators, kids can get stuck in washers.
This same neighbor let her children make fires behind my house. None of the Chassidishe parents wanted to moser their children. It was only because another neighbor was a member of Spring Valley Fire Dept. and they kids were setting several fires, that they caught the kids on a video sting and sent them to mandatory fire safety training.
These parents needs some commonsense and parenting skills. Religion is no excuse for ignoring safety and the law.
September 1, 2011 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #804659popa_bar_abbaParticipantOk, so you have 4 complaints:
1. They did illegal work that damaged your drain and the rabbi didn’t care.
2. They let their kids ride without helmets.
3. They let their kids play in washing machines.
4. They let their kids light fires.
Now, complaint 1 and 4 are valid, while 2 and 3 are you being a busybody. I’d like to hear the other side of the stories now.
But my advice to you is to call the fire department about the fires, and a beis din about the sewer.
And stop annoying the parents about the helmets; it won’t make you popular.
September 1, 2011 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #804660deiyezoogerMemberYou might have a bad neighbor but why are you slandering a whole group of people. I’m chasidish but I dont trash the street. In fact my wife goes around cleaning candy wrappers that neighboring kids (chasidish/yeshivish/MO/teimony/maxicen/Africen American) left on the ground.
September 1, 2011 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #804661AkivaKParticipantAs I was writing this posting, a child was hit by a car in front of the very house with the washing machines. You can check the Spring Valley police to verify this.
I am not slandering anyone. Unfortunately, the police agreed with me that it is a cultural phenomenon and therefore it makes it a chillul Hashem.
My point is: Don’t mistake your insulation from outside influences to not listen to reason, common sense, or the law; just because someone is not “in your group” doesn’t mean that you exclude them and their ideas because you delude yourself in the guise of piety.
September 1, 2011 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #804662bein_hasdorimParticipantSee My old post about educating the masses. We’re fighting a losing battle.
September 1, 2011 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #804663popa_bar_abbaParticipantI am not slandering anyone. Unfortunately, the police agreed with me that it is a cultural phenomenon and therefore it makes it a chillul Hashem.
You discussed your social complaints about them with the police? Nice.
My point is: Don’t mistake your insulation from outside influences to not listen to reason, common sense, or the law; just because someone is not “in your group” doesn’t mean that you exclude them and their ideas because you delude yourself in the guise of piety.
I see. You think they are ignoring you because you are outside the community.
It could be. It is more likely they just don’t care about your safety concerns because they simply don’t care, and are annoyed that you are getting involved.
September 2, 2011 1:53 am at 1:53 am #804664aries2756ParticipantPBA, wearing helmets is a NY State law for a very good reason. I have seen how a helmet cracked in half when my friend’s child hit a rock on the road while riding his bike and flipped over. That could have been his skull that cracked in half. B”H he was wearing a helmet. That is a very serious issue and parents NEED to implement that rule. No helmet no bike. It is absolutely negligence if a parent does not enforce this rule. If a cop sees this a parent gets a fine and should be fined. Children are NOT dispensable and parents should STOP taking them for granted. Every parent needs to check that the area they are playing in is safe.
On the other issue neighbors have to be good citizens and good neighbors and not think that the world was created just for them. It has nothing to do with chasidish, yeshivish, Jew or gentile.
September 2, 2011 2:00 am at 2:00 am #804665HaLeiViParticipantI don’t get the washing machine thing.
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