Comedian in Chief

Health, the MSM, besides for Foxnews, are all DemonCrats as you so aptly put it. Even if they are frustrated with Biden at the moment, they will support a different candidate in the next election who will be another Comedian in Chief. Their ideologies are so corrupt, they cannot think rationally.

This posting in rude and highly insulting, especially to comedians (and BTW, there is nothing funny about Biden who is acting pretty much could have been predicted based on his very long record).

Biden’s optics have gone from bad to a churban but the substantive metrics governing most economic and strategic issues of concern have really not materially changed. Markets, income and employment have continued their steady recovery, short term inflationary trends are moderating and as terrible as it sounds, the tragic loss of life yesterday in Kabul is probably less than what we have sustained had he not pulled the troops out quickly (albeit with really inept execution). The Orange Blob can keep issuing press releases on faux “Presidential Stationary” that no one reads and do mock-up press conferences from a make-believe oval office at some Golf Club in New Jersey that no one watches but the nation and the world are better off with he and his chevrah left yelling gevalt at one another on OAN and NewsMax.

Stop making fun of COMEDIANS. They had nothing to do with the mess the world is in, and the incompetence of those the American people have freely elected is not funny.

Everything Trump says it always about himself. I wonder why.

Wow. I can believe the lengths some of you are going to to pretend Biden isn’t the biggest disaster on 2 legs, and I can almost believe there are a few holdouts wanting to pretend that he didn’t just betray America and destroy our reputation and safety when even CNN knows it’s true. But to tie it to Trump?
Somewhere between beyond the imagination and pathetic

P.s. before you try to pretend this is a pro trump thing, I don’t read his letters, don’t want him running, and don’t think I’d vote him back. This is purely about watching TDS merge with La la land

Trump did not listen to those competent people like General Mattis and therefore they resigned.

Gadol > believe Trump knew what he was doing on ANY national security issue,

A left-wing rag recently ran a discussion with their experts asking them a ridiculous (for them) question – was there one thg that Trump did right? Five experts had five different items. You are an educated person, I am sure you can name some yourself. For your own sake, write them down on a piece of paper. You don’t have to post it here, you can just burn it after. Just tell us how many items were on the list 🙂

Health, it does not proof anything about Bolton if Trump does not even listen to Mattis. He simply thinks he knows everything and does not have to listen to advisors. North Korea might end up with nuclear weapons after making friends with them. Breaking the treaty with Iran showed that no one is watching, so they can do whatever they want by being on the verge of acquiring the materials. The movement of the embassy I don’t see a direct benefit of except the increase of the arab hatred.

RebE> When you always follow your own instincts, people around you realize that their good advice is not required and is ignored.

RebE, I think you simply wish your own sensitivity on people you voted for. Where are your examples of Biden doing something against his instincts and following an advice. Do we need to quote Bob Gates again?

I brought a mixed example written up before the election by one of the Biden’s agitators – that Biden continued publicly defending his idea of dividing Iraq in parts, while privately conceding that he is wrong and not pushing it further. This is still not when he was a “decider”.

As much as I hate the Democrats, and as much as I blame Biden for putting American lives at riske when pulling out of Afghanistan, the ones who really started this mess was Bush and Cheney and other Republicans who made the decision to invade Afghanistan. Only special forces should’ve stepped foot in Afghanistan on short, crucial missions to strike at Al Queida, not the Taliban. Our troops should never have been sent in, drones should’ve bombed from the air.

The US was pumping in billions of dollars for the Afghan army who were mostly made up of soldiers who were drug addicts and corrupt. Billions was spent to build up another country’s infrastructure. This was all with money that was borrowed and we still has to repayed with interest!

Countless lives and trillions of dollars were lost in vain in this 20 year war.

Philosopher: Well said. Clearly it was time to get out of this black hole dug by prior Presidents of both parties, but Biden’s inept handling of the withdrawal will likely drag down the Dems in the 2022 mid-term elections. This was a totally self-inflicted fiasco that speaks to his decades-long objections to these types of wars and fixation on making withdrawal a hallmark of his first year in office. I’m not sure Trump would have done it any better (or at all) but the buck stops with Biden.

Health, relax, it’s not healthy to get your blood pressure up simply because I have an opinion about this issue.

This is not about military failings, but about the faulty thinking of Bush, Cheney and other Republicans who think that if you pump billions of dollars into another country you can change their mentality and ideologies.

18 hostages dying in the US embassy in Iran after the Shah fall vs approximately 2,500 US service members deaths, 3,900 US contractors deaths, 1,144 other allied service deaths, approximately 50,000 Afghan civilian, national military and police deaths and 440 aid workers deaths in Afghanistan during the 20 year war. So which is worse?

Cost of the mission during the Iranian takeover of the US embassy in Iran were two helicopters vs the cost of the 20 year Afghan war which costed 1 trillion dollars which will balloon with interest to over 3 trillions dollars.

So, yes, the Afghanistan war was way, way worse than the Iran debacle.

The US has fought ridiculous wars, like the wars in Iraq and Vietnam and this war was another dumb one.

America did not become more secure because of these ridiculous wars. Remember Obama’s Bin Laden elimination? It was a special forces mission. Remember Trump’s bunker buster bomb on ISIS? That’s how you fight these unwinnable wars.

philosopher> drones

this is a little ahistorical – drones were rare and not capable to wage a war in 2001. At some point at that time, I think, Gen McCrystal was running a drone operation and a feed was cut – because Pentagon generals wanted to control such an important operation.

philosopher,
UAvs were first deployed in Balkans in 1995-6
in 1998, we were able to shoot cruise missiles at Al Qaeda fixed targets. so, technology was there.

from wiki: We were able to locate bin Laden from video in summer of 2000 and tested shooting a missile from Predator in February 2001. But we did not have permission from Stans to host a weapon there. In Feb 2002, we killed from the air someone resembling Bin Laden. Of course, it became harder later on, when capability became known and the terrorists started taking precautions.

I am not arguing one way or another re:training Afghans, just giving you facts. Maybe it was wrong trying to recruit a bigger army and train them as an Army. Afghans are pretty good at fighting their way, and their special forces by all accounts worked well. Hope now when they are left to their own way of fighting we will support them in a similar way Reagan helped them fight Soviets.

> back to the Comedian in Chief, $80 billion + in arms were left for the Taliban

I do not disagree. They are busy now writing new lines in the comedy:
1) “according to the advise of military Chiefs” referring to various minute decisions like leaving Kabul without picking up all citizens (green card holders and eligible refugees are not even mentioned). So, Biden makes major decisions himself (strategic – to leave, and tactical – to leave in time for 9/11 anniversary, abandon Baghram, etc), puts military into a dangerous position in an airport in the middle of the city, surrounded by Taliban “protection”, and then throws them under the bus for any decision they make after those blunders.

2) “Ending the military mission was the best way to protect the lives of our troops — and secure the prospects of civilian departures for those who want to leave Afghanistan in the weeks and months ahead,” talking points from WH to Dems leaked out today (finally, leaks started coming).
So, leave them to protect them better …

All this energy managing their reputation could have been used on thinking what could happen in advance. But, if you have a team experienced in politics, they’ll do what they know how to do.

Health, I disagree with comparing the Holocaust to the war in Afghanistan. Would you give $80+ billion worth of arms to Jews they wouldn’t run away like the Afghans did. Jews are not on drugs like the Afghans are. Jews are not part of terrorist group like Afghanis are.

Bin Laden had to be taken out and Al Qaeda destroyed to the point that they wculd not practice terrorism globally. And therefore special forces could be deployed, as there were to take out Bin Laden, and air strikes could be used to destroy much of Al Qaeda. I think it was a terrible idea to send ground forces, to attempt to build up an Afghani army and to building up Afghanistan’s infastructure.

Its a bit bizarre to see the frequent references here (and some right wing media) based on a “news-release” yesterday by Trump that somehow the Taliban has ended up with $80+ billion in U.S. weaponry as a result of the rushed withdrawal. Apparently the Trumpkopf was using a recent report from the Inspector General for Iran Reconstruction programs that estimated that the TOTAL
funds spent since the 2001 invasion to train, equip, house, feed etc the Afghan military and police was about $82.9 billion although no one really knows the value of the equipment that was seized by the Taliban. Most of those funds were expended prior to 2015. Numbers from a separate 2017 GAO report suggest that weapons and hardware probably accounted for $25 billion over the 20 year period. While thats a still a big number, Trump’s 340 percent exaggeration is about the norm for his “alternative facts” mentality. For the Taliban though, thats still a lot of hardware.

Gadol > news-release

I am not sure what motivates you to launch partisan counter-attacks while admitting the failures of the big guy you voted for. As if you are on the campaign staff. Why not discuss what is important and how it affects all of us. Generally, number of people who disapprove of Biden went up from 44 to 49% faster than previous disapproval growth. That is, even such a disastrous performance affected just 10% of the supporters. Shows how crazy partisan we all are.

Jackk,

Are you saying that since trump said a month before his second term he was going to leave but then post the election he wouldn’t bring them home?

I highly doubt it