Cleaning up Shidduchim

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    sm29
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    When it comes to Shidduchim and marriage, there are some situations where people go into things that end up badly. For example, either the woman or man is mistreated and the relationship fails. Either people are given poor advice or are mislead. But something needs to be done about the situation.

    We are the chosen people who have a mission to spread light. Let’s not throw away our special quality. Both men and women need to be respected and given what they need. A man needs to be able to support his family. A women needs to be able to take care of her family without being overburdened. Together, the couple can help each other complete their mission here.

    #976529
    eclipse
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    Learning the halochos of shmiras haloshon is essential. In my case, crucial facts WERE WITHHELD,(that alone doesn’t ruin everything, but it sure doesn’t help) and in other cases, nasty gossip is relayed unnecessarily. Gossip ruins a shidduch from going further, and withholding essential info. can ruin a marriage.

    #976530
    sm29
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    Sorry to hear about that. I agree that it’s very important for people to know what to say and not say. If it’s something that people don’t need to know like he sings while driving for example, then you leave it up to him to mention later. But if it’s important like his/her hashkafah, and any issues physical or mental, middos, financial situation etc. That should be discussed.

    #976531
    Torah613Torah
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    How do you clean up shidduchim?

    I know!

    You can use Charming paper towels with Mr. Clean who will sweep her off her feet and Pledge marriage with much Joy.

    #976532
    eclipse
    Member

    hey Torah, that’s amazing!!!!

    #976533
    Torah613Torah
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    Thanks eclipse, and wikipedia commons.

    #976535
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    In my humble experience, this is almost always the girl’s fault.

    This is the curse of odom harishon, that ????? ???? ???? ???.

    #976536
    eclipse
    Member

    Ok, Popa’s in the mood for a brawl:)

    #976537
    m2h
    Member

    No one came to my aid when I needed help to get away from my sociopathic ex.. My being a vulnerable widow meant nothing. My kids meant nothing. This was a shidduch that should never have proceeded.

    #976538
    sm29
    Participant

    That must have been very painful to go through, that’s why there needs to be awareness. And something needs to be done. It might seem like nobody cares, but there are individuals who do. They just need to be found

    #976539
    rebdoniel
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    I’d be one to agree with PBA. I had 2 relationships that never materialized, and in both cases, I felt I did everything “right.” (Parnassa-bound, sweet, attentive, generous, funny, passionate about HaShem and Torah, respectful and helpful to their families, etc.) I felt that the women I was with were meshugenneh (one did go to a shrink and had hurtful tendencies, and essentially played “blame the victim” as a means of deflecting blame from herself, and the other was davka on meds and saw a psychiatrist). But, alas, these weren’t bashert. They weren’t meant to be. And in retrospect, I thank HaShem they failed. I’m happier single now than I was with those beasts.

    In Jewish history, women are often the source or cause of men’s downfall and misfortune. Look at Adam and Chava. Lot and his wicked daughters. Romance results in Yaakov Avinu becoming a laborer for 14 years in total. Shimshon and Delilah (he wasn’t such a gibor when it came to resisting feminine wiles). Jezebel was a wicked queen who brought idolatry upon the Jewish people. Shlomo haMelech’s women led him away from G-d. Maacah married Rehoboam, Shlomo’s eldest son, and when Abiyah succees Rehoboam, Maacah the Queen Mother brings avodah zarah into the mix, notably worship of Baal and Asherah. No wonder why Hazal tell men to avoid women, even their own wives.

    Abusive partners sadly are abundant, both abusive women and men, although I find that abusive women tend to be more into psychological and emotional manipulation and subterfuge when compared to men.

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