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Do you enjoy classical music? Do you play classical music? What composers are your favorites?
I enjoy Haydn and Mozart most, and cheerful pieces in general. Beethoven is great background music. Wagner makes me tense for some reason (even before I knew he was anti-Semitic.) I can only play simplified versions, but I haven’t practiced in years.
Leonard Bernstein and Toscanini = the best conductors ever.
yannis really nice stuff… verry calming…
u shud also listen to simon and garfunkle.. dont worry abt anti semitism cuz theyr jewish..
purplicious
Dont recommend non Jewish music on Yeshivaworld (or elsewhere for that matter).
1. Choral music raises many shailohs (content, womens voices, words are distracting)
2. Some classical music has an avodah zarah shailoh (a shailoh, not an objection)
3. There is the issue (for non-zionists) that we aren’t supposed to be listening to music for enjoyment while in mourning for Yerusalim.
4. Otherwise, it is certainly prefereable to the usual noises of the “real world” – especially
when commuting.
okkkkayyy.. So can anyone recomend some good, classical, JEWISH music?? You don’t mind when t613t says non jewish music..
Bizet, Mussorgsky, Tchaichovsky.
Felix Mendelsohn was one of the founders of the Haskalah
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and yanni is classical!! soooo??
helooo im so confused whys everyone mad at me abt nonjewish music? and mozarts jewish? and Bizet, Mussorgsky, Tchaichovsky????
My favorites are Handel (water music), Tchaikovsky (nutcracker suite) and Vivaldi (spring).
My more modern-day favorites are Yanni (one man’s dream) and Yiruma (a river flows in you). (Yanni and Yiruma are very classical-style.)
I LOVE classical music!! 😀
lol you haven’t heard the rest of my preferences in music. I don’t think TBMG can possibly be called sophisticated… ^_^
hey dont say that now cuz i stopped when oom is concerned abt squashing my personality.. can u pls explain this to me? ur mad at me cuz i sed non jewish classical music and then e/o else says it and ur perfectly ok? pls explain urslef..
purplicious: They can express their opinions, but you can still recommend what you like. The mods will decide if it is appropriate for YWN.
Hey – you were able to read THIS, remember? 😛
zahavasdad writes: “Felix Mendelssohn was one of the founders of the Haskalah”
No, you are thinking of his controversial grandfather, Moses Mendelssohn. Felix Mendelssohn was baptized as a Christian by his parents (both of whom were born Jewish, of course), and practiced Christianity throughout his life.
love it!! most beautiful thing ive heard!! lol!
eheheh thanks. 🙂
Okay, to each their own. 😛
Edvard Grieg
Now that’s entertainment!
oh and I like Ludovico Einaudi.
Chopin, Franz Liszt, Ravel, Schubert, Schumann, Christian Sinding, and Rachmaninov are my favorite composers!
Reb Moshe, among many other Gedolim, listened to classical music. To quote a recuperating priest, “If it’s good enough for Rabbi Feinstein it’s good enough for me.”
and also Yo-Yo Ma.
It is all tainted with church origins and to know it well requires huge bittul Torah and bittul zman. The Mechaber had it right.
Modzitz of course. 🙂
If you can use youtube, you can look up “Modzitz Concert 1.avi ” for an hour long concert by the Israeli Philharmonic
Rav Moshe did not listen to Yanni, though. Yanni is “New Age”, not Classical. Although both are (mostly) instrumental, there is a big difference between the two.
This has been discussed before in a thread about non-Jewish music, IIRC, but music is an expression of the singer’s neshama and it goes straight to the listener’s neshama. From what I’ve heard, and with all due respect to this artist, a frum Jew should not have any soul-to-soul connection with Yanni’s soul.
I do understand that Mozart, Bach, et al. were not tzadikei yesodei olam either, but if classical is good enough for Rav Moshe then I can certainly understand that. But not to extrapolate that to therefore cover any instrumental music. No.
Given the terrible general yeridas hadoros among the umos, particularly in the past 60 years or so, it is especially unwise to listen to non-Jewish music made during this time, and only worse so the more recent it is.
akuperma – On a few of your points… Point 2), whilst it is technically true, the ‘some’ you mention is a miuta d’miuta. Pretty much everything written after 1550 or so (generally regarded as the beginning of the Classical era) is completely secular in nature. Granted, Handel did put out a lot of religious stuff but he out out a lot anyway. Yes, most of the Baroque and early Classical composers wrote one or two religious pieces but there were by no means any kind of majority. After the early Classical composers (so from about 1800) it is extremely rare to find any specific Church-music (with the exception of Faure and some of the current crop such as John Rutter).
On your point 3). I’m not quite sure why you refer to Zionists, plenty of teshuvos have been written on why it is muttar to listen to music today (R’ Moshe alone wrote 3). Even before then, what would the hetter have been for Chassidishe Niggunim? It seems quite obvious that people have been listening music outside of Seudos Mitzva for hundreds of years.
Loyal Jew – Learn something about classical music before making sweeping comments. See above response to akuperma for more details.
Elgar and Mahler are my stand-outs, but it really depends my mood. Einaudi is wonderful for relaxing with, the Russians (Prokofiev, Borodin, Romsky-Korsakof, Tchaikovsky) are good for working to. Having said that, with the exception of Wagner (which is just noise) I go for pretty much anything.
I heard it described as the goyim’s equivalent of “Torah be-lo bracha” lehavdil. It all has church inputs.
We’re all too busy listening to awesome music to hear you, Joseph. Sorry bout that.
Loyal Jew/Joseph – You’ve “heard it described”, I actually know a fair bit about it. It does not all have Church input as I have previously pointed out with specific reference to composers and their work. Classical music is generally regarded as being that composed from around 1550 onwards specifically because that’s when music started being composed primarily for secular or artistic purposes rather than religious ones. Please, before making ridiculous generalisations learn something about the subject you’re commenting on.
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