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  • #2289227
    jackk
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    Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has disclosed for the first time visits to Bali and to a private club in California in 2019 paid for by his friend and benefactor, Texas billionaire Harlan Crow, according to financial disclosures released Friday for eight of the nine justices.

    He has spent his career on the Supreme Court with one goal in mind to live the life of a billionaire and to retire as rich as he can get away with.
    He disdains any oversight or questioning of his lack of ethics. He won’t even recuse himself on January 6 cases, when his wife was a major fan and even a participant in January 6th.
    He has clearly violated the spirit and probably the actual words of the Ethics in Government Act.
    Since 2004, he has received gifts of over 4 million dollars. He did not see any reason that he should be transparent and disclose all the gifts that he has been receiving from his friends who just so happen to love him for his great personality.

    He should be ashamed of the disgrace that he is.

    #2289441
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Whenever a Republican calls out an African American he is branded a racist whether he’s right or wrong

    So in the spirit of equality

    RACIST!

    #2289455
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @jackk

    Would this bother you if it was a Supreme Court Justice who supports the slaughter of unborn babies or the type of relationship that the Torah refers to as an abomination?

    We have a president who spent his career with one goal in mind- to enrich himself to the extreme detriment to the country yet you’re still going to vote for him over the person who enriched the country at his own personal expense. (I know, January 6th blah, blah blah…)

    In the past I brought up to you my concern with nominating a judge to the highest court based on her gender (even though she couldn’t define what a woman is) even though many of her earlier rulings were overturned (something that can’t be done with a Supreme Court ruling). Back in March of 22 you said that we can have a separate discussion (See Page 2 of the “So you voted for Biden” thread).

    Now that you’re bringing up the Supreme Court- let’s discuss this:

    Why are you ok with nominating a judge based on her skin color and being a woman, despite her not being able to define what a woman is- especially someone who already showed that she’s not an expert in the law?

    #2289460
    akuperma
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    He accepts money from conservatives who have no cases pending before the courts. Liberal judges know to accept money only from liberals, even if they have cases pending. And even worse, he support civil rights for frum Jews, which is politically incorrect.

    #2289461
    GadolHadofi
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    jackk,

    Well then, let the powers that be kick him out for his many violations of ethics rules; why, oh why hasn’t that happened yet? Maybe you’re just not SCREAMING LOUDLY ENOUGH.

    You’re a mah-yafis kapo who lacks any Jewish feeling as demonstrated by your constant defense of woke anti-Semites and deafening silence when your high priest Brandon repeatedly stabs Israel in the back. This incontinent, useless turd urinates on Israel and you thank him for making it rain.

    You should be ashamed of the disgrace that you are.

    #2289570
    Gadolhadorah
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    This guy has accepted MILLIONS of dollars of gifts and consistently “forgets” to report them or claims he was “advised” they were not subject to reporting. We are not talking about tickets to a rock-concert or even a Texas fishing trip. At some point, even the Republicans will have to puke and acknowledge the stench is overpowering. Personally, I wish the Justices were prohibited from accepting ANY gifts above some nominal value

    #2289581
    Milhouse
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    Lying and slander are serious aveiros, and it makes no difference that the victim is a nochri. JacKKK is a rosho merusha. Any mitzvos he may do (and I’m not convinced he does any) are worthless, because he is such a hateful liar.

    Thomas has never done anything unethical in his entire career. If a friend invites him to come with him on vacation, there is no reason in the world why he should turn it down. There is no judge anywhere who would turn it down. Harlan Crow is a personal friend of his, and occasionally invites him to travel with him, or does him favors; any decent person should be happy for him.

    If Crow would ever have a case come before the Supreme Court, obviously Thomas would recuse himself; but that has never happened, and there’s no prospect of it ever happening.

    Likewise if a case ever came before the court to which Mrs Thomas was a party, he would obviously have to recuse himself, but that has never happened either. The fact that she is active politically is completely irrelevant, and it is NEVER the practice of judges to recuse themselves just because a family member is politically active. That would be a ridiculous and unsustainable rule.

    Consider Reinhardt, who used to be chief judge of the 9th circuit, and whose wife was the head of the Southern California chapter of the ACLU. He would recuse himself only if that chapter was party to a case; but if it was any other chapter he would NOT recuse himself, because his wife was not a party. That is the standard, and Thomas has every right to stick to it. Anyone criticizing him for it is dishonest.

    #2289642
    BY1212
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    Jackk is a rabid racist who enjoys seeing blacks love in slums and dying from drugs and gang violence.

    It drives him crazy when those he considers untermenschen are successful.

    This racist attack against a successful black man is typical rabid racist behavior.

    I would say that jackk should be ashamed of himself but rabid racists like jackk whose goal in life is the putting down of black people do not have any shame.

    #2289704
    Gadolhadorah
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    Milhouse does an elegant job of defending the indefensible. At some point, accepting gifts of RVs, real estate purchases, vacations etc. crosses a line just as much as Judge Merchan’s 10$ donation to the Biden campaign. Harlan Crow is a passionate advocate for many of the policy issues coming before the court even if his name is not in the caption of a cert petition or Amicus.

    #2289760
    BY1212
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    Jackk is arabid racist who can’t stand blacks leaving the ghetto and being successful in life.

    For jackk the only place for a black is in the ghetto batey surviving on welfare, not knowing who their fathers are and getting killed by drugs or gang violence.

    Jackk is perfectly happy with that state of affairs bc he doesn’t live in those purgatories. He is a rotten NIMBY marxist/leninist/Stalinist/maoist with a hatred for all mankind.

    Shame on jackk who prefends to love people when he is nothing more than a rabid racist.

    But asking rabid racists to feel shame is a brocha l’vatolo

    #2289769
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    Dear JACKK,

    Before we go farther with this discussion,
    I want to clarify two facts about you.

    First: What are your religious beliefs?

    Are you a Reform Jew?
    Are you a Conservative Jew?
    An atheist? An agnostic?
    A Yeshivish Orthodox Jew?
    A Chassidic Orthodox Jew?
    A Modern Orthodox Jew?
    A Modern Orthodox Feminist?
    A Religious Zionist?

    Second: What are your politic beliefs?

    Are you a Marxist? Neo-Marxist? Socialist?
    Liberal? Leftist? Social Democrat? Centrist?
    Left-Wing Democrat? Unorthodox Republican?
    Member of the Green Party?

    I was not planning to ask you these questions,
    but when you started this discussion, I changed my mind.

    Sincerely.
    SQUARE_ROOT

    #2289788
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    SquareRoots: Does it really make a difference how the OP self-identifies. Assuming he is a non-binary Ungarishe Republican anarchist who says Hallel on Trotsky’s yahrtzeit, does that rally matter to the substance of this thread which is the absence of any enforceable ethics rules to SCOTUS?

    #2289790
    besalel
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    These ad hock personal attacks on jackk make me very uncomfortable. 85-90% of the frum world think differently than jackk on politics but these personal attacks have no place in our society. attack the position not the man holding it.

    #2289799
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    JACKK claims that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas lacks any ethics.

    Even if that is true, how does that make him any worse than people like:

    Bill and Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and his son Hunter, Nancy Pelosi,
    Chuck Schumer, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar?

    Even if that is true, how does that make him any worse than Socialist
    Professors and college and university administrators who intentionally’
    spread hate against Jews and many false accusations against Israel?

    And also the “woke” / Social Justice Warriors of the MSM (Mainstream
    News Media), who also spread hate and false accusations against Israel?

    I mention these wicked people, because they are wicked people
    who would never be criticized by: Marxists, Socialists, Leftists,
    Liberals, Social Justice Warriors, Social Democrats and Wokesters
    — categories that probably describe JACKK very accurately.

    #2289826
    ujm
    Participant

    Dorah: There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Justice being very close friends with someone who is a “passionate advocate for many of the policy issues coming before the court”.

    #2289959

    I don’t understand this thread – is there a specific claim that the judge benefited his friend somehow? His philosophy is known, and so of other judges. I think 8 of them decide according to their declared philosophy, whether they ❤️ 🍺 or don’t know who a woman is. The chief judge seems to be the only one who has some external considerations.

    #2290006
    GadolHadofi
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    besalel,

    jackk loves attacking others and a review of his posts show that he’s an anti-Semite loving, mah yafis kapo.

    #2290010
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @besalel

    I agree with you to a point but this site is geared to Frum people and he is purposely antagonizing us. Let him start a forum for abortionists or LGBTQ+ if he doesn’t want to be offended.

    I’ve held back from calling him wicked in the hopes that there’s still a tiny spark within him that can be kindled but anyone who knowingly calls for the re-election of the current president and political party that caused the crisis currently going on in ארץ ישראל- while 100+ of our brothers are still being held captive- is wicked and evil.

    We just observed the anniversary of מתן תורה, I and many others, stayed up the entire night beforehand learning. The תורה is unique in that every single Yid was by הר סיני when it was given. I don’t know if any other religion that makes a similar claim. The תורה has been with us for thousands of years and every single letter had been shown to be 100 true.

    I find it extremely offensive that people here are diametrically opposed to the תורה since it’s against the slaughter of unborn babies as well as relationships that their political party promotes- all this just to get some extra money from the government.

    #2290050
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    QUESTION: How do we know for sure that JACKK is Jewish?

    ANSWER: We don’t know that. He could be an Israeli Arab
    who learned Hebrew words and phrases from living in Israel
    and from reading Jewish newspapers and Jewish web sites.

    #2290181
    jackk
    Participant

    I am so glad that I did not glance at this thread since I posted the original post.

    I hope you all had an uplifting Shavuos and a true kabbolos hatorah that will inspire you until Purim when we have another chance.

    Whoever actually tried to discuss the issue of taking millions as a judge without publicizing it or ruling on cases where your wife was part of the case, I appreciate the discussion.

    #2290183
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    QUESTION: How do we know for sure that JACKK is Jewish?

    ANSWER: Only a Jew could be such an anti-Semite loving, mah-yafis kapo.

    #2291161
    huju
    Participant

    So Jack comments about Clarence Thomas, a US Supreme Court Justice, and Thomas’ ethics, and most subsequent comments are about Jackk and his Judaism.

    What shameless nudniks.

    #2291332

    It would be one thing that someone reads a gemorah about righteous behavior and then posts about various politicians who do not fit the standard. With others, it seems that they watch partisan TV and re-transmit this week’s political plan into here. Many of us have treif phones and can watch those programs ourselves if we choose so, thank you. And those who have glatt phones or don’t choose to watch treif, don’t need to come here to get it.

    Also, based on sourcing, it feels as productive to talk back as it is to shout back at the TV screen.

    #2291339
    jackk
    Participant

    Yasher Koach and Thank you to Besalel and Huju.
    I am pretty sure that there are rules in the CF against these kinds of posts.

    I actually thought that a judge who has taken gifts/bribes from billionaire conservative friends for decades and will also not recuse himself where he has a clear conflict of interest would actually be a very pareve torahdige topic to discuss. I guessed wrong.

    #2291340
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    huju,

    Save your crocodile tears, hypocrite! You and jackk are the “shameless nudniks” who never miss an opportunity to hijack everyone else’s threads with your woke effluent., no matter the topic.

    You should both be ashamed of the disgrace that you are!

    #2291375
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    So bottom line is that if you are a Supreme Court Justice and fly Christian Nationalist flags that have become a symbol of support for the January 6th rioters at BOTH your homes (and blame it on your wife who “loves flags”) OR accept over $5 million dollars in gifts from conservative donors (and then fail to disclose, or disclose late or claim you got “bad legal advice on disclosure”) there should be no concern about appearance of conflicts much less substantive conflict.
    And any yid who raises such concerns is a kapo, self-hating jew, anti-semite or at best, a “shameless nudnik”.

    #2291441
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    “And any yid who raises such concerns is a kapo, self-hating jew, anti-semite or at best, a “shameless nudnik”.“

    No, a racist

    #2291455

    So many gedolim, my head spins. I think we need to be realistic about American political system. It is designed to distribute and balance yetezer hara, not to ban it from public life. Justices are not elected, but are put there with a specific role to play. Delegitimizing them from some theoretical, not legal, viewpoints, leads to weakening institutions. You can apply your passion to supporting foundations of American republic. for example, protest all cases where federal government start regulating things that should be better left to the states.

    #2291458
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    Dorah.

    Nope, any yid who raises such concerns is not necessarily a kapo, self-hating jew and anti-semite but huju and jackk have proven time and again that they are. It was huju who first called others “shameless nudnik”.

    Still waiting for your made-up “boomerang curse” from that hypocritical post of yours on January 27, 2023 to take effect. Can’t happen soon enough.

    #2291798
    jackk
    Participant

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday upheld a longstanding federal ban on firearms for people under domestic violence restraining orders. The 8-1 opinion was authored by Chief Justice John Roberts. Justice Clarence Thomas was the lone dissenter.
    Another case where Clarence was the lone dissenter was when SCOTUS Allowed Trump’s Docs to Be Seen by 1/6 Committee.

    Interesting isn’t it.

    #2291888
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    If I remember correctly, any American wife can get a Domestic Violence Restraining Order
    against her husband, without any evidence of wrongdoing,
    and without any witnesses that a wrongdoing occurred.

    The wife’s accusation against her husband must be immediately
    accepted as true by police, without evidence, and without witnesses,
    and without a trial in court, and with no “innocent until proven guilty”.

    Considering how unjust America’s Domestic Violence Restraining Orders
    are, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was justified in defying
    the misguided Politically Correct majority.

    #2291933
    @fakenews
    Participant

    Considering that the Supreme Court was never really subject to the same disclosure laws that nearly every other public servant has, it was always my assumption that all nine justices were taking such gifts.
    The fact we know this about Thomas and none of the others simply means that they haven’t investigated the others yet.
    Even today, Supreme Court disclosures are not required by last in most cases (except when a related party has a pending case in front of the Supreme Court).
    I don’t know that Congress has the stomach for the potential constitutional crisis that would occur should they try to really regulate the Supreme Court.

    To be clear, none of what I wrote is well researched, it is what is percolating from the back of my head from conversations going back years.

    #2291977

    Us gov has 3 branches that are supposed to keep each other in check. President nowadays operates trillion dollar army, can listen to everyone’s calls. Congress makes weird laws about things that have nothing to do with federal government
    Supreme Court is just 9 dudes and gals who get to resolve 100 cases a year. They are not even selecting their own, it is the fault of the other two if an inappropriate person is there.

    They are the weakest part. They have less lawyers than the other branches. Easiest to to attack. Their only strength is lifelong tenure and not ruled by other branches.
    So
    1. Give them some slack, their independence is more important than ethics
    2. Everyone should give them donations to make them stronger

    #2293443
    jackk
    Participant

    On a 6-3 party-line vote, the Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that state officials may accept “gratuities” from people who wish to reward them for their official actions, despite a federal anti-corruption statute that appears to ban such rewards.

    Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote the opinion in Snyder v. United States for the Court’s Republican-appointed majority. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson wrote the dissent on behalf of the Court’s three Democratic appointees.

    It’s notable that neither Justice Clarence Thomas nor Justice Samuel Alito, both of whom have accepted expensive gifts from politically active Republican billionaires, recused themselves from the case. Thomas and Alito both joined Kavanaugh’s opinion reading the anti-corruption statute narrowly.

    I wonder why.

    #2293521
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    jackkk,

    So any day now the Court will cancel these criminals for their clear violations of long-standing ethics rules and conflicts of interest. Why is it taking so long?

    You’re now criticizing Justice Alito in a belated attempt to hide what a complete racist you are, in addition to being a mah-yafis kapo.

    #2293578
    BY1212
    Participant

    Jackk is a rabid racist who also lacks any ethics.

    He is also an ardent follower of his beloved Schiklegruber and prize student of Goebbels.

    #2293622
    jackk
    Participant

    Supreme Court seizes control of regulatory agency decisions

    Judges now can second-guess

    – drug safety
    – banking regs
    – aviation safety
    – environmental regs
    – consumer product safety

    Courts can now take over American life — in support of corporate special interests

    #2293839

    > Judges now can second-guess

    This is outrageous, indeed. How dare judges interfere with lawful acts passed by Congress!? Oh, wait, no – they can intervene only when Congress did not say anything, but President-appointed agencies made their own decision.

    But my problem with the poster is not so much his opinions to which he is entitled, but in his not presenting the facts before posting his opinion. Even meraglim started with reporting the facts.

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