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How far does the Chasam Sofer’s dictum apply?
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Joe, not as far as you think.
I would like to see it applied against some of the right wing innovations that shmoel and his fellow travelers are so enthusiastic about. Historically, most Torah Jews actually worked for a living.
So you would want to translate the Chasam Sofer’s dictum to mean that Torah is osur min haTorah. I can see that certain groups feel that way.
It applies to wheat, barley, spelt, rye and oats. It applies to chassidim and non-chassidim alike. That’s right. Yoshon is not a chumra. Chodosh is assur min hatorah.
It would apply to all of Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy as a movement, going by that name, is a 19th-century novelty: a reaction to the Emancipation and the Reform.
Anything with a hechsher from Badatz Eda HaChareidit has no chodosh products in it. You will also see on products from Paskesz that they also indicate no chodosh (I think they say it is all yoshon).
From what I know, chodosh is d’oraisa in EY and d’rabbonon in chutz la’aretz. Many people in chu”l are becoming makpid on yoshon products as well and I know that even in LA there is a list of bakeries that have yoshon products.
Naftush is 100% correct.
My reply to those who claim chadash assur min hatorah would be ein chiddush gadol mizeh.
Glatt Kosher, I am sure the Chasam Sofer never heard of it
And it applies to the ‘Perushim’ as well, I guess.
Sh’kol uznechah vi’azil.
How can chodosh be ossur if it doesn’t exist? Ein kol chodosh tachas hashomesh? ;-p
“to mean that Torah is osur min haTorah”
Historically, a small tribe of Levi was well supported by the other 12 tribes. Moshe spread them into 48 small towns throughout the other 12 tribes.
“Chadosh assur min HaTorah” (as used by the Chasam Sofer) was not meant literally. Don’t mix up a sharp turn of phrase with a halachic principle.
just my hapence:
Torah is Le’Maaloh min HaShemesh.
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