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  • #611379
    TheGoq
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    If you went to a chanukah party on the second night of chanukah and the main dish was turkey would you eat it?

    #988950
    cherrybim
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    Assur to have turkey on Thanksgiving at a seudas mitzva, certainly when it is the main dish.

    #988951
    tzaddiq
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    it’s a machlokess between the many american poskim.

    on one hand, chanukah is a time of hoda’ah and therefore we praise and thank hashem in the birchas hoda’ah of shmona esrei, with al hanisim. however bringing a turkey into the picture totally takes away our focus of our jewish way of thanking and celebrating chanuka, and shouldnt mix into our menu.

    mitzad hasheini, we must thank hashem for everything, even for our country, and is a welcoming addition to our plates once we’re in the ‘thanking mode’.

    the universal minhag is to compromise and to prepare and mold potato latkes in the shape of a turkey.

    (sefer toras lokshin al hamo’adim)

    #988952
    Derech Agav
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    many sheilos regarding thanksgivin were brought to Reb Moshe zatzal

    He discusses issues like having thanksgiving dinner leftovers for the shabbos meal…. among others

    #988953

    What about a Virtual turkey at a virual CR Chanuka party on the 2nd night????

    #988954

    My friends non-jewish cousins asked her what they do for thanksgiving day, she was like

    “Oh, we beleive in giving thanks EVERY day, so we don’t do anything different ;)”

    #988955
    WIY
    Member

    Is it a problem if the Turkey is fake turkey like vegetarian or something?

    #988956
    147
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    You all should have been at the installation ceremony at the Shearith Yisrael Synagogue yesterday Sunday, when the new Rabbi gave an entire 1/2 hour discourse about how connected are Thanksgiving & Chanukah, both being themed on “LeHodos” = to give thanks.

    Since these 2 holidays shall never coincide again. seize the opportunity to consume Turkey with Latkes.

    It shall also be 11 years until next time that 2nd nite of Chanukah is a Thursday nite.

    Meanwhile our Canadian neighbors shall be consuming their Thanksgiving meal next year on Chamishi Shel Sukkos with Moshe Rabbeinu, albeit in Canada not rare that Thanksgiving is on Sukkos, or last year it was on Shemini Atzeres.

    #988957
    cherrybim
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    147’s new Rabbi gave a 1/2 hour themed discourse about how connected are Thanksgiving & Chanukah.

    I wonder why my Rav didn’t darshin on this connection.

    It’s highly unlikely that previous g’dolim celebrated Thanksgiving sh’chal bo Channukah with turkey.

    #988958
    zahavasdad
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    People are so ungratful . We are lucky to live in a country that lets us live in peace instead of such customs as making the Rabbi of the Community bend over on a “Holiday” so he can be kicked in the rear to show how low we are (This was the custom in the roman ghetto)

    #988959
    ubiquitin
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    um cherrybim chazal made the connection, Im not sure why your rav didnt pick up on it.

    The theme of chanuka is, as we say in al hanissim, “lehodos ulehalel” Which roughly translated mens to GIVE THANKS and praise

    #988960
    rebdoniel
    Member

    As someone who is a dues-paying member of Shearith Israel, I was most pleased to hear Dr. Soloveichik’s remarks that day.

    Nothing is inherently Jewish about a latke. Germans and other goyim eat potato pancakes and hash browns all the time.

    American Jews across the country, Orthodox and non-Orthodox, will be proudly sitting down with their families to enjoy turkey, stuffing, latkes, sweet potato latkes, gravy, candied yams, mashed potatoes, sufganiyot, pumpkin pie, apple cider, and all the trimmings. I’ll be davening at Shearith Israel, where they conduct the Minchat Todah in honor of Thanksgiving, and where we’ll be watching the parade afterwards. After that, I’ll be volunteering at a kohser Thanksgiving meal for the poor and elderly, and at night, I’ll be enjoying an Empire turkey, latkes, sweet potatoes, pumpkin pie, and all the trimmings with family, as a proud Jewish American.

    #988961
    apushatayid
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    But if you deep fry your turkey……

    #988962
    apushatayid
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    It’s highly unlikely they ate turkey, ever.

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