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If, as people have stated, the jammers are illegal, what’s the point of this discussion?
They’re legal and used in shuls in Eretz Yisroel.
Sadly.
Whether they’re legal in Israel is a machlokes Feivel and Zahavasdad.
I withdraw. ZD is correct. Sort of. They are illegal for individuals.
Although their use is generally overlooked, like jaywalking here.
Any organization can easily get a permit if they want but no one bothers.
So they tell me.
His ubiquitous Google finger finally finds something accurate.
takah, can’t you wait to check the score after you left shul? 😉
Believe it or not, I don’t follow any teams so closely that I need to know scores.
I find it terribly sad that people can’t control themselves for 45 minutes or so without looking at their phones. I see people all the time checking their phones during chazaras hashatz, as if they might lose their job or the world might end if the emails aren’t read immediately.
I find it sad that shules would put people in danger by jamming cell phone signals.
Well, technically accurate anyway.
I find it sad that shules would put people in danger by jamming cell phone signals.
They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.
Adaraba, they are trying to remove people from a very real, severe, and ever present eternal danger.
Just thought I’d point that out.
But in truth I think it won’t do much at all to solve the problem.
And I don’t think it’s nice.
They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.
If someone is having a heart attack , every second counts, thats why many places now have difibulators onsite. ANd while its infrequent that things occur, it does happen enough to make a differnce. Most of us have been in shul at some time when Hatzolah needed to be called (or whatever they use in Israel)
They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.
I’ll bet that the people that are chas v’shalom trapped in that dangerous situation, no matter how infrequent, would not want any delay in the response. I know I wouldn’t.
I think we should be satisfied with nothing less than two armed security guards, and a fully equipped Hatzolah member and ER doctor in every shul at all times.
Many Shuls do have doctors or Hatzolah members who regulary attend.
And Security guards arent a Joke, Ive actually seen that in Europe. In many countries you cannot go to shul unless you get permission before Shabbos (If they know you, it isnt a problem, but if they dont) It totally freaked me out
They shouldn’t just be there regularly, they should be there whenever they’re open. And not just in Europe, everywhere.
Then they could jam everyone’s cell phones without putting everyone’s lives in severe danger.
I wouldnt be surprised if they are in israel and I think even in the US, some have that
There was a stabbing at 770, I am sure they hired security guards after that
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If jew boy2 has nothing to add to this, why would you bump a 2-year-old thread?
I think he is trying to compare to the Hatzolah Scanners
Its not exactly the same, The cell phone jammers are Illegal and its not clear of the Hatzolah Radios are illegal
Takah: Calling someone a “Jew boy” ain’t nice!
So aside from being illegal, at least in the US, a hatzalah phone does not account for:
Fires
Police-related issues
Doctors
Hatzalah (let’s be honest, after 3 months the phone breaks and no one is ever gonna fix it)
People with family issues (I guess people whose wives are expecting or those with sick family just shouldn’t daven for a while?)
People who need to be contacted for other reasons (shomrim, hatzalah, during the summer chaveirim if a baby is stuck in a car)
or anyone else who might for some reason need their phone.
Instead of blocking and banning, maybe we should just teach people self-control and politely ask them to follow the rules. I personally would worry about those who talk and disturb others before those who are just disrespectful themselves on their phones anyway.Do any phones have a setting where you can set certain numbers as urgent and only have it ring for those numbers?
iPhones have a mode called “do not disturb” where that can be done.
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