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    thegra
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    I accidentally purchased ices without a hechsher several years ago from a non-Jewish company. I contacted them on the off chance they had a hechsher because I did not want to throw my money away and heard their product was better than most. They emailed me back saying the OU said they were kosher but they would have an OU Dairy on the box because of dairy machinery. They said (back in 2009) that they hopped to have the OU on their boxes by 2010. I am not sure why they still do not have it (they maintain they are perfectly kosher and are finalizing the process with OU). Do you think it is ok to trust them that the OU said they were kosher even though there is no hechsher on the box? The ingredients on the box are kosher as far as I can tell.

    #936148
    sharp
    Member

    Several years ago? How much is an ices? I would just chuck it.

    #936149
    sharp
    Member

    Do you still have the ices? 😛

    #936150
    thegra
    Member

    well i want to know if I can buy a new one from the grocery store.

    #936151
    sharp
    Member

    Did the OU put their symbols on the packages since then?

    #936152
    sharp
    Member

    “A new one from the grocery store?” Why, where else? What are your other options?

    #936153
    thegra
    Member

    Nope

    #936154
    ChanieE
    Participant

    Ask the OU. 212-613-8241

    #936155
    thegra
    Member

    So I called the OU and they said the company has dropped out of the certification process for unknown reasons. You think I can trust them and eat it or just go somewhere else? What if I see a family member eating it? Should I rebuke them or not tell them?

    #936156
    WIY
    Member

    thegra

    “So I called the OU and they said the company has dropped out of the certification process for unknown reasons. You think I can trust them and eat it or just go somewhere else?”

    If there was a likely chance that the company was putting poison in their food would you believe them if they told you that they don’t? Kashrus is not a joke and not a game. It doesnt look like you take it too seriously.

    #936158
    thegra
    Member

    WIY: “If there was a likely chance that the company was putting poison in their food would you believe them if they told you that they don’t? Kashrus is not a joke and not a game. It doesnt look like you take it too seriously.”

    We are commanded to judge others favorably.

    #936159
    sharp
    Member

    WIY: +1

    #936160
    shnitzy
    Member

    I would not trust them. They don’t have complete knowledge of kashrus and when ou says something like that, it would be wise to listen.

    #936161
    thegra
    Member

    thegra: +1 (wow, that’s a lot easier to do than writing a knowledgeable response).

    #936162
    wasserman
    Member

    WIY: “If there was a likely chance that the company was putting poison in their food would you believe them if they told you that they don’t?”

    Nice, right out of the gemarah.

    #936163
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    Problem is I have a different analogy… would you even try eating it if there was a chance that there is some dishsoap mixed in? Anyone who ever tasted dishsoap by mistake would say no.

    #936164
    2qwerty
    Participant

    How good can these ices be? You just want them because they are forbidden to you.

    #936165
    shnitzy
    Member

    Except my two year old. He loves dishsoap.

    #936166
    thegra
    Member

    “You just want them because they are forbidden to you.”

    Stop going into my head and just answer the question.

    We are commanded to judge others favorably.

    #936167
    sharp
    Member

    thegra: “Please do not judge me. You think I consider koshrus a game after I waited two years and contacted the company and the OU?”

    Yes I think you consider Kashrus a game. Now what?

    And that’s why it looks like you don’t want a knowledgeable response.

    #936168
    thegra
    Member

    sharp: “Yes I think you consider Kashrus a game. Now what?

    Now nothing. I don’t know why you would think that and am sorry you feel that way. It’s not about the ice cream. It’s about the halacha.

    Does anyone know the halacha if there is a chezkas kashrus for non-Jews claiming somehting is 100% kosher in this setting? I already have my answer but am curious to know what others think.

    #936169
    sharp
    Member

    No. They do not have chezkas kashrus. This can be dragged out and explained in a long long post. I’m not doing it.

    You said you already have the answer so it’s not necessary.

    #936170
    sharp
    Member

    Ices or ice cream?

    #936171
    thegra
    Member

    I don’t want to give you anymore information sharp because maybe you are only trying to get me to give you the name so you can go buy them for yourself even though they have questionable kashrus.

    #936172
    shnitzy
    Member

    Sheesh. I hate stupid burns. They’re just stupid. Stupid. stupid.

    Break it up both of you.

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