Can you steal something from a friend if its bad for him

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    Yadleyad
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    Can someone take something away from someone else if it will benefit the person who owns it? For example an e-cig for a minor

    #1704669
    Joseph
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    In Yeshiva we are taught that not only are you allowed but it is a mitzvah to break someone else’s television.

    #1704680
    Prince
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    I don’t know halachially but I do know you can’t change people. People have to wanna change themselves, so if you take his ecig he’ll just buy a new one. You gotta show him how what he’s doing is bad and he’s gotta come to the conclusion to change.

    #1704728
    zahavasdad
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    No, its not for you to decide, while you might stop at an e-cig, what if someone else says its a smartphone or something else

    #1704735
    Yadleyad
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    I know I just used an ecig as a random example

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    👑RebYidd23
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    If it is pikuach nefesh, for example, an e-cig that you know will explode.

    #1704753
    apushatayid
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    30+ years ago, we were told we could damage the cigarettes that belonged to someone in the yeshiva dorm. We did. We scooped out the tobacco and filled them with oregano (stuffing just enough tobacco at the end to make it look alright.

    Was quite a site watching him light up.

    We had to fes up, when he was on his way to the store to make a return for the “stale cigarettes”.

    #1704773

    I think it’s bad for you to use Artscroĺl gemarah – so I am going 5o steal your AS shas. And those cookies and chocolates – have you looked in a mirror? They are bad for your health and shidduch prospects: I will steal them. And that car you are driving – it’s sakonos nefoshos!

    #1704780

    I am wondering if it would apply to someone’s keyboard.

    #1705551
    anon1m0us
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    Didn’t Rachel steal Lavan’s idols?

    #1705588
    places
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    and that is why she died early

    #1705560

    anon1mous Rachel stealing Lavan’s idols – like Moshe Rabbeinu stealing the Golden Calf that belonged to those that made it… Yaakov stealing the brachos…Brothers stealing Yossef and selling into slavery…we come from thieves!

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