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“these tax break are based on IRS regulations.”
Actually exemptions from property taxes are based on state law, not federal law.
“There is no need for government socialized education. Let government get out of the education business and allow the private sector to operate schools”
I know that it is politically incorrect to suggest that the United States might benefit from looking at what other countries do, but in Ireland, almost all schools below the university level are run by religious organizations and funded by the government. As a result, religious schools must accept students not from their own religion and teach other religions. The one Jewish school has many Christian students and teaches Christianity and past chief rabbis developed courses in Judaism to be taught in the Catholic and Protestant schools.
Be careful what you wish for.
“The teachers union and other union whose member work in the schools know if school choices was ever available,it would be the end of public schools”
Almost all Catholic schools have unionized faculty and staff.
“Taxpayers do not have a right, nor should they have a right, to determine how private schools spend money to educate children, even if partially tax funded. “
Actually, taxpayers DO have such a right. You take government money you accept government strings.
And if such a plan as you suggest ever becomes law, you know very well that some Jewish head of school who pretends to be Orthodox will improperly spend the money and there will be a massive Chilul HaShem.
It should also be noted that the government has the right to regulate private schools even when there is no funding because education is something necessary for the good of society. That was established in Judaism back when the Temple was still standing! New York State has regulated private schools since 1784.
I know that it is politically incorrect to suggest that the United States might benefit from looking at what other countries do, but in Ireland, almost all schools below the university level are run by religious organizations and funded by the government. As a result, religious schools must accept students not from their own religion and teach other religions. The one Jewish school has many Christian students and teaches Christianity and past chief rabbis developed courses in Judaism to be taught in the Catholic and Protestant schools.
Fascinating (raised eyebrow).
Thank you for sharing.
Government money is the taxpayer’s money. The taxpayer gave the government that money, and the taxpayer ought to have the right to choose how to educate their children, with the tax dollars they put into the system, without socialized government bureaucrats dictating to them how to educate their children. Parents are far better equipped to choose their children’s education that nameless government bureaucrats in State capitols. Especially considering that government public schools have failed America’s children for the past half century.
As far as Ireland, the US government cannot dictate to a private school what religion they may or may not teach. No one is asking to fund religious education. But secular education should be funded in any private schools.
without socialized government bureaucrats dictating to them how to educate their children.
Then you are in the wrong country man, if you think you will not have bureaucrats telling you exactly what to do with its tax money.
Nisht and Joe,
You’re both missing my point. If all schools, including yeshivas and private are funded like public schools with public taxes, then the local board of education will have the right to review and approve the budgets of both yeshivas and private schools budgets
And I’m exactly saying that the law should be codified that the government and the board of ed cannot interfere with private school decisions or budgets, even though its funded by taxpayers.
1. All taxpayers are entitled to tax funded schooling.
2. All taxpayers are entitled to choose any school of their choice, public or private.
3. Ideally, the government should get out of the schooling business altogether. (They’ve failed.)
4. The government cannot interfere with parents schooling choices or methodologies.
Government money belongs to taxpayers, not to “the government”. Citizen taxpayers should have the right to choose how their educational dollars are spent on their children.
Uncle Sam doesn’t tell you how to spend your IRS refund check or your Child Tax Credit. Even welfare (cash) recipients can legally spend their welfare cash on whatever they want. What I am proposing easily fits within the Constitution.
Joseph
I agree with most of what you said but using current law, a private school that is fully funded by public funds is labeled as a public school which is governed by the board of education or in NYC the Dept. of Education.
As I said before a tax credit program witch the yeshiva tuition is paid back to the parent as a tax refund is the way to go. But although Dov Hikind and Simcha Felder fought to have it included in this year’s NY State budget for a mere $500.00 per student it didn’t pass.
You say “The government cannot interfere with parents schooling choices or methodologies.” The state has the right to regulate that secular studies that are taught in yeshivas. This is the purpose of this thread.
I also disagree with your comments “All Taxpayers” are you saying non-taxpayer children are not entitled to an education or not entitled to school choice?
As far as getting the government out of the education business it is not going to happen, The unions are too strong to get this passed at least not in NY State.
I specified the law needs to be amended to accomplish my proposal.
I didn’t address non-taxpayer’s (i.e. poor) children. They should be entitled to a funded education with the same choice as all.
“the US government cannot dictate to a private school what religion they may or may not teach”
It absolutely can if the school gets even a dime if government money — even a tax break.
“it is not going to happen, The unions are too strong to get this passed at least not in NY State”
Nor will voters support the massive tax increases that would result.
“Ideally, the government should get out of the schooling business altogether. (They’ve failed.)”
Actually there are still a lot of great public schools.
The public schools in my town are excellent and are a major factor in maintaining property values.
Op-Ed By Ezra Friedlander On Rep. Nadler’s Decision To Support The Iran Deal
Ezra again. Why doesn’t (or does he?) pay for space to publicize his paid-for views?
Why should he pay if he finds willing s-ers putting it up for free?
Joseph – good point. Perhaps as someone who uses the CR and YWN, I am suggesting to the owners a revenue opportunity 🙂
“Why doesn’t (or does he?) pay for space to publicize his paid-for views? “
Is there a major politician in America other than Jerry Brown who doesn’t have paid speechwriters?
Dr. Hall – my complaint is not about Rep. Nadler, but rather Ezra, who conceals his paid-for “viewpoint” as the opinion of a Charaidi Shatdlan/Askan to whom people should listen as “one of ours”. I would have no issue if the prepared statement of Rep. Nadler was delivered by a guy who happens to wear Payos.
Gavra
Part of being a PR man is knowing where you can get free publicity.
As far as why yeshiva world allows it. it is probably because it gets people to click on it and respond. Advertising revenue is based on the # of clicks.
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