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What’s the difference?
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I’ve lived in both.
What do you want to know?The biggest differences size
Brooklyn is Kings County whereas Queens is only Queens County. And we all know how Kings stack up to Queens. (Remember Anne Boleyn?)
What’s the difference?
They are two different places. There are many different neighborhoods within each.
I think to get meaningful answers, you’ll have to be more specific as far as what you want to know.
Queens was once considered more upscale than Brooklyn, as far as frum neighborhoods.
Brooklyn is more expensive than Queens
The besserer mentchen used to move from Brooklyn to Queens, back in the day. Now the besserer mentchen move to the Five Towns or Teaneck.
Many differences- starting with the accent.
Queens has 2 airports, a baseball stadium and a tennis center.
Brooklyn has Coney Island, an Aquarium and 13th Ave.
Here’s one you in particular might find interesting- Brooklyn has 770, where the Lubavitcher Rebbe lived. Queens has the cemetery where he is buried.Joseph, before your “back in the day” besserer mentchen moved from the Lower East Side to the Bronx. Neither of which is Brooklyn or Queens.
One difference that’s significant to the readership of the CR is that many neighborhoods in Queens have eruvs that are widely accepted.
WTP, Brooklyn used to have an airport. In fact it was NYC’s first municipal airport. It also used to have a baseball stadium. Queens also has a 13th Avenue where it’s easier to park than on Brooklyn’s.
The price of Cholov Yisroel milk is significantly higher in Queens than it is in Brooklyn.
Maybe because of the eruv.
They don’t make eruv tavshilin in Queens? And how does that affect the price of cholov Yisroel milk?
The Eruv Hazoth in Queens is the only one personally approved by Rav Moshe. He approved no other Eruv’s
Joseph, before your “back in the day” besserer mentchen moved from the Lower East Side to the Bronx. Neither of which is Brooklyn or Queens.
Yeah, but that was in the age of the dinosaurs.
Meno, I can get CY milk in Queens for $2.50 or less. It’s often on sale for $1.99. ZD, which eruv in Queens was approved by Rav Moshe? There are many, at least these days.
Brooklyn has a baseball stadium, in Coney Island.
Joseph, when people began leaving Brooklyn, it was more to Long Island than Queens.
Brooklyn was largely settled by the Dutch ( Brooklyn,Midwood and Flatbush are of Dutch origin ) while Queens was settled by the BritishMeno’s shopping in the wrong place.
If you live in Brooklyn, spend a Shabbos in Queens… lots of communities in Queens to check out, and lots of sub communities too. We run the full gamut between Kew Gardens Hills and Kew Gardens…Yeshivish, YI, kiruv, chassidishe, neo-chasidishe, sefaradi, ashkenazi, bucharian, russian, even conservative. Multiple mikvahs and kosher food too. Then there’s Fresh Meadows, Hillcrest and Jamaica Estates. Queens offers a little something for everyone. You could spend more than a few months of Shabbossim sampling it all. Very open and welcoming here.
If you live in Queens you can spend many many wonderful Shabbosim in Brooklyn and still not anywhere near complete visiting all the many and varied beautiful frum communities in town.
Joseph, when you visit those Brooklyn communities on Shabbos, make sure you don’t have a cold, because you won’t be able to carry tissues.
IOW, Brooklyn is for the living Torah and Queens is where people go to bury??
The Kew Gardens Hills Eruv was personally inspected and approved by Rav Moshe. After he approved it he honestly was not too happy how people used it and refused to approve any more Eruvs, but he didnt take away his blessing from Kew Gardens Hills Eruv
LB, if the Mets or the US Open don’t interest you (or it’s not that time of year) you can do some shopping on Main St in Kew Gardens Hills, eat lunch at one of several pizza stores, get some take-out and baked goods for shabbos. then head over to Flushing Meadows Park- feed the ducks, take a nice long walk around the park, visit the Queens Museum, the zoo, the site of the 1964 World’s Fair, etc. You can even visit Trump’s childhood home in Jamaica Estates.
YY- the Dodgers and a “used to have an airport” don’t count, since LB can’t go back in time. As far as 13th Ave in College Point, Queens …I don’t think it has what BoroPark’s 13th Ave has to offer. Maybe there are other 13th Aves?
The rebbe didn’t live in 770 that’s the shul
He lived on president stWinnie: How do you suggest visiting the site of the 1964 World’s Fair but then, in the same breath, knock visiting Brooklyn because you “can’t go back in time”? That’s just a minor quibble, by the way. Brooklyn has far far more Jewishly to offer than Queens.
Queens uses a crazy street numbering system. For example, you got 159th St followed by 159th Ave and 159 Pl before it goes to 160th and does the same thing. Brooklyn goes in numerical and alphabetical order in an easily understood street grid plan.
There is a baseball stadium in Coney Island.
One can also Visit 3 decent sized Yeshivas in Queens. Chofetz Chaim, Ohr Chaim and Lander College
On some blocks in Brooklyn you can visit three decent sized Yeshivas on one city block.
Don’t forget, while similar in so many ways, a big difference is that “Queens” is spelled Q-u-e-e-n-s, and “Brooklyn” is spelled, B-r-o-o-k-l-y-n.
Joseph, I did not say to visit the World’s Fair, but the site… it’s still there in the present, and is a somewhat interesting place to visit.
Note that the OP did not ask how Brooklyn and Queens differed Jewishly, or which was better.
And the crazy street numbering is to keep out unwanted guests, of course! If you are referring to KGH, then you would be talking about numbers in 60s and 70s that are sometimes re-used as Ave, Road, and Drive. You can also throw in a Crescent and a Terrace. The Streets are a separate numbering system, and run parallel to said Aves, Rd, Dr. At least the numbers are in order- other neighborhoods have non-alphabetical street names.
Please explain streets in Brooklyn: New Utrecht Ave and Old New Utrecht Rd. I always wondered why the old and new don’t cancel each other out and just become Utrecht Rd- would save room on the street signs.WTP, that’s because New Utrecht Avenue was named after the Town of New Utrecht. Founded in 1652, it was one of six towns founded by the Dutch in Kings County ( Brooklyn ). It was,named asher the Dutch town of Utrecht
If someone Davens Kvasikin every day there is no Nusach Ashkenaz or Sefard Kvasikin Minyan on Shabbos as there is onlonly Sephardi ones in Kew Gardens Hills.
Eli, Queens is becoming increasingly Bucharian. I hear that many Ashkenazim moved out over the last several years.
Brooklyn has the young ones moving out to Lakewood. Queens has the young ones moving out to the 5 Towns.
Speaking of crazy street systems, Avenue R becomes Avenue O when it crosses Flatbush Avenue.
To add to WTP’s explanation of Queens street numbers, the numbered streets also have places and lanes. Like Brooklyn, Queens was made up of several villages. Some areas have numbered streets, others don’t. Some areas just have north-south streets and east-west avenues and not all the other flavors (WTP presumably meant to say that the streets are perpendicular to the avenues). Even Queens’s well-known hyphenated house numbers aren’t universal: there are a few streets in Kew Gardens that have regular three digit numbers, and the in the Rockaways, house numbers usually aren’t hyphenated.
less chumras, I get New Utrecht (and New York, New Jersey, etc) it’s the Old New Utrecht that leaves me scratching my head.
Brooklyn has the young ones moving out to Lakewood. Queens has the young ones moving out to the 5 Towns.
5 Towns is much more expensive than Lakewood whereas Lakewood is much frummer.
How did we get on Lakewood?
LB, don’t get too caught up in the banter between the Queens and Brooklyn people; they would both be good communities.
Brooklyn is a bit more clearly divided than Queens: Crown Heights is for Lubavitchers, Flatbush is for Litvaks, and Boro Park is for Chasidim. The Queens communities are a bit more mixed I think. The language barrier would most likely be problematic for Boro Park. If you’re going down the Chabad path, you should be forewarned that Crown Heights is an extremely unsafe neighborhood. I don’t know as much about Queens, but the downside there would be that you would most likely have a longer commute.
Queens has trees and grass…
Brooklyn has trees and grass too.
Neville, your commute depends (obviously) on where you’re going, how you’re getting there, and what neighborhood you’re living in. For instance, Kew Gardens Hills has no subway stops, but Kew Gardens has the E and the F at Union Turnpike and the J and Z at 121st Street and Jamaica Avenue. The trip from Union Turnpike to 53rd and Lexington takes less than 30 minutes.
As for the language barrier in BP, in my experience, most Chassidic women speak pretty good English. Many men don’t.
NCB: If BP is for Chasidim, what’s Williamsburg for?
Satmars. Sorry I left it out.
Knowing that the OP is a Baal Teshuva from other threads, we should be narrowing down the neighborhoods. Williamsburg would obviously not be viable; and, as I said earlier, I don’t think BP would be either. Unless lightbright is just asking out of curiosity and not considering moving to either place; that much was unclear.
Williamsburg has a lot more Chasidim than just Satmar. And BP has Satmar too, as well as having many non-Chasidim.
LB: When’s the visit?
If you want to see the Jews of NY
walk down the following Streets
Lee Ave between approx the BQE and Park Ave in Williamsburg Brooklyn
13th Ave in Borough Park Brooklyn
Avenue J and Ave M Between Ocean Parkway and Ocean Av in Flatbush Brooklyn
Main St between Horace Harding and Union Tpke in Queens
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