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February 3, 2013 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #926218JayMatt19Participant
@the litvishe kiryas Joseph
The chosson is ???? ????
That means the kallah is ???? ?????
Does not one stand to show honor to a king or queen?
February 3, 2013 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #926219That (domeh) is only said regarding a Chosson, not a Kallah. Furthermore, there is no halachic concept of a Malkah that can demand the same level of honor as a Melech, as described in the 2nd perek of Mesechtes Sanhedrin.
February 3, 2013 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #926220benignumanParticipantTLKY,
The Gemara in Kesubos indicates that the honor due a Kallah is one step below that of a King and a King was praised by the Chachomim for giving honor to a Kallah. It is hardly a stretch for Klal Yisroel to choose to show this honor by standing when she enters the room.
Furthermore there is an express mitzvah in Chazal to be m’sameach a Kallah. Is it not reasonable to think that a Kallah might feel a little simcha when everyone rises for her when she walks down the aisle? And shouldn’t those sitting down (and especially if everyone were to sit down) be worried that by doing so they might lessen the Kallah’s simcha?
February 3, 2013 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #926221JayMatt19ParticipantThanks, always knew you were good for being able to share what type of respect a woman need or need not receive as the case may be.
You probably have enough info to write a book on it
February 3, 2013 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #926222Truth be told, the entire idea of sitting down at the Chupa — and then getting up — comes from America and is a copy of the goyim. In pre-war Europe, and generally in Eretz Yisroel today, everyone stood for the entire Chupa. (The Chasidim even in America still do so today, as they generally have the Chupa outdoors.)
February 3, 2013 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #926223JayMatt19ParticipantNicely played Joseph, referencing a family member of mine whom u located and later tried to befriend on facebook under an alias.
You are really a Class Act, minus the C and the L
February 3, 2013 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #926224YW Moderator-42ModeratorDash, that is not what I said. I said if the kallah’s father is a talmid chacham then you should stand for him when he enters the room with hiss daughter.
Confucious, exactly. If it is the kallah walking down with the mothers then my reasons wouldn’t apply unless you say “kallah domeh l’malka” (I don’t know either way whether we say this so I won’t comment either way). There is also ZK’s point that she is on her way to a mitzvah so you should stand for that.
Either way, I don’t think there is anything wrong with standing for the kallah (as long as you aren’t doing it to get a better look) but I also don’t know whether there is a chiyuv.
February 3, 2013 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #926225Ðash®ParticipantDash, that is not what I said. I said if the kallah’s father is a talmid chacham then you should stand for him when he enters the room with hiss daughter.
I wasn’t questioning your post, that’s why I quoted gavra_at_work (although even it had been written as father it still wouldn’t make sence).
February 4, 2013 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #92622644221Participantjmat?
did i read that rite?
a user tried to find and befriend your sis?
verry creepy
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