BREAKING: CDC Data Shows Boosters’ Protection Plunges After 4 Months

I stopped after the 1st booster (one month after the original)

ujm,
two notes:
1) this is for wuhan vaccine v. omicron, and large number of antibodies are needed to defend against a different variant as each antibody/vaccine encounter is less successful. Omicron vaccines are currently in phase 3 testing.

2) people generally acquire long-term immunity (T-cells, etc – beyond antibodies circulating in blood) to coronaviruses by encountered them multiple times during childhood. That is, we still get infected by “common cold” but with no serious damage.

So, presumably and logically, every encounter with either covid or a vaccine moves us towards that goal. According to many, that now include CDC, these encounters need to have some time between them, like two months. You surely want first several encounters to be vaccine and not covid to avoid possible damage. British results on side effects show 2 case of myocarditis/million for both Pfizer 2nd dose and booster, so no increased risk. So, boosters seem to be not controversial at least for population 40+ y.o. So, 4 months is too much, but presumably 6-12 month separate boosters (esp if tuned for the current variant) will make most of the adults fully safe from the “endemic” covid.

UJM,

So everyone can be mekayam the holy mitzvah of “V”Nishmartem” 3 times a year ? Gevaldik. Thanks for the PSA.
It must be a daf yomi coincidence, since we are learning maseches chagiga where there are 3 other mitzvos (Rieyah, Chagiga and Simcha) that Hashem commands us to do specifically 3 times a year to become closer to Him.

jackk, Chagigah is also talking about 3 simanim of a shoteh:
walking at night by himself (putting himself in danger for no reason and, maybe figuratively, staying in the dark from facts)
sleeping in the cemetery (not accepting norms of behavior?)
tearing clothes apart (refusing bodily protection and again behavioral norms)

Also people with foul odor are exempt – not because of themselves but because they are annoying others.

still, I don’t think we will have vaccination clinics at Beis Hamikdash. Just once during yomim norayim – mi b’magefa …

Ohevet > Why call those who do want boosters- derogatory names. That isnt the Torah way.

While I agree with your sentiment, I am not sure these posters care much about Torah way. They would jump on any posting about Fauci, but when I’ve asked them repeatedly what their sources are, what posek approves such behavior – I don’t think I ever saw an answer. I am not sure what brought them to a Jewish site.

Exactly ujm but to people such as alwaysask, you are laughing at Hashem. See if the vaccines actually worked it would be one thing, aside for the fact that they have been rushed and untested for side effects as far as long term and that’s undisputed since you cannot test long term (7-10 years) in less than a year.

The fact that CDC deleted from their own website the info of how long vaccines are tested (10-15 years) until they are released, is such a red flag if there ever was one. It’s actually quite scary how less people are reading physical books and rely on internet which in one flash can be updated to a whole different narrative and information. Talk about 1984 where they had a system to update and change historical facts and articles. What we have now is an upgrade to that. One click of the mouse and history is gone and altered.

This is why they had book burnings along the years. This is much more efficient than book burning and way worse since the information will still be there, just altered.

Also yes I know this isn’t a vaccine it’s an mRNA. Isn’t that worse? It’s a new technology and untested in long run!

Bottom line if you want to take vaccines that’s fine. The problem is everyone else has to suffer with vaccine laws because of the brainwashed majority. Same thing goes for masks. They are so genius for coming up with the “it’s not to protect you it’s to protect others from you”. Incredible tactic.

Rw, you are trying to build a logical argument that I am trying to understand. Unfortunately, you start with “vaccines don’t work” which is not supported by facts, demonstrated by hundreds of papers from multiple countries. I understand when you say “natural immunity” is better, for example. This is a point to which one can respond. But what is your point of saying things out of thin air, I am not sure.

UJM
You removed the word “SUGGESTS” from the title.
That is a big difference between “there needs to be further examination of this” and “this is definitively concluded.”
You jumped to a possibly false conclusion.

rw > fact that CDC deleted from their own website the info of how long vaccines are tested (10-15 years)

I looked at the original article with these words. They list all steps in vaccine development, and the value of Warp Speed was able to compress all of them. The site says that the final phase 3 trial takes about 60K people, and Pfizer had 44K – close enough. As this is the final step proving efficacy and and safety, there is no reason to worry about quality of previous steps. Just tells you how fast research can happen when government gets out of the way.

“When the vaccines first came out they were sold as once and done (either one or two shots, vzeh hu.)”

You lie about Israel and Apartheid and now you lie about this. There was always the question regarding how long the immunity would last. There are many vaccines that require boosters and this is no exception.

“I understand when you say “natural immunity” is better, for example. ”

Natural immunity was similar to being vaccinated prior to the omicron variant — assuming you survived COVID in good health, which a lot of people did not. But natural immunity did not provide protection against the omicron variant.

If we are taking CDC data as something we can learn from, CDC data also shows that people with three COVID vaccine shots are not only far far less likely to get hospitalized and/or R”L die from COVID but also far far less likely to pass COVID on to someone else.