Bracha on Matzah Brei

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  • #608811
    DaMoshe
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    I grew up not eating gebrokts, and switched after getting married (after consulting with my Rav). When I first had matzah brei, I assumed the brachah on it was hamotzi, because the pieces of matzah in it are still clearly visible as matzah.

    I was by my brother in law for the first days, and he told me that he was told to make a mezonos on it, since it’s fried. I did some searching online, and saw a few places that say hamotzi, but the OU site says mezonos (unless the pieces of matzah are bigger than a kezayis, which they usually aren’t.)

    Why would this be a mezonos? If it’s still recognizable as matzah, shouldn’t it stay as hamotzi?

    #941728
    SaysMe
    Member

    it’s debatable. Depends how much oil is used and how big the pieces of matza are and….

    One way to make it mezonos is to ‘cook’ the matza before making it into brei, ie putting the pieces into boiling water.

    #941729
    Sam2
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    Saysme: Why would that make it Mezonos?

    #941730
    yeshivaguy45
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    Sam2-When you boil bread (or in this case matza), it loses the shem hamotzi and turns into mezonos.

    #941731
    SaysMe
    Member

    what he said 🙂

    #941732
    Sam2
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    yeshivaguy: Source for that please? It sounds very strange to me.

    #941733
    popa_bar_abba
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    The way I make it, I am certain it is mezonos maaseh kedeirah, and thus is mezonos no matter how many seudos you are koveah.

    Recipe:

    Take about 1 and a quarter hand matzos, and smoosh up in a pot.

    Run hot water from your sink until very hot, then fill up the pot with it to cover the matzo.

    Put on stove on high for about 15 seconds.

    Drain the water and smoosh it all out of the matza. (You may need to run cold water in to cool it down so you can smoosh.

    Add two eggs, kosher salt, and pepper, and mix mix mix.

    Heat a cast iron skillet with several tablespoons of oil.

    Dump the mush in, and spread out. Cook on medium low.

    After a few minutes, pick up the piece with a wide spatula, and turn off the flame. Standing back, flip it over into the pan, splattering oil all over yourself.

    Turn flame back on and cook on medium for a few more minutes.

    Eat. Don’t put any cream cheese on. Throw the cream cheese at your sister in law (who by now is usually throwing dirty diapers at you because of various things you have been telling your nephew.)

    #941734
    Chaimy
    Participant

    As it was said if you see the matza even small pieces than Hamotzie. If you can’t recognize it anymore because it was soaked for half an hour and there are NO pieces than it changes the Bracha.

    #941735
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    Chaimy: hat’s what I thought. But here’s what the OU website says: Mezonot – Provided that none of the pieces of matza is as large as a keza-yit (i.e., about one-third of a matza). If even one piece is that large, then Hamotzi is required.

    I’ll ask my Rav tonight what he thinks about it.

    #941736
    yeshivaguy45
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    Sam2- shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim Kuf samech ches seif yud. You can also look at the brachos sefarim, they bring it down (Vezos Habracha, R’ Forst’s sefer,R’ Bodner’s etc)

    #941737
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Chaimy: That is not the halacha. It does not matter if you can recognize pieces. It matters if you satisfy what the halacha says.

    #941738
    rebdoniel
    Member

    I will eat a piece of matzah and wash on it prior to eating matzah brei, to avoid sfeikot.

    #941739
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    If you eat matza brei you are clearly a sheigetz and shouldn’t be making brachos anyway.

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