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We have two sifrei torah at the CTL compound that were from a bungalow colony owned by my grandparents after WWII.
We use them for services held here on yuntif and snowy Shabbosim in the winter.
This afternoon, I got a call from a frum man in an adjoining town. He is at his in-laws’ home and the FIL is wheelchair bound and they planned a minyan for this Shabbos. It dawned on him the Shabbos Rosh Chodesh Chanukah we use three sifrei Torah and he wanted to borrow our two to add to the one his shul lent him.I refused, saying that we don’t let the sirei torah out of the house unless one of us plans to be at the place where they are being used.
I don’t know this man, and have met his FIL a few times but we are not friends.
Was I wrong? they could roll the torah they borrowed from their shul.
Would you loan a sefer torah to people you don’t really know well?
Would you ask an individual to borrow a sefer torah?I assume you submitted this question prior to Shabbos, when you could have still changed your answer to him.
I don’t think it was so unreasonable to refuse since they had a sefer Torah and it was only a matter of rolling it.
My shul does not lend out its seforim to unknown individuals, only neighborhood shuls or members making a simcha in an outside catering hall.
I am someone who is all for giving above and beyond, but i do think that was a lot to ask. Things happen and two sifrei torah are a lot to gamble with
Make sure that a sefer torah is loaned to an individual, and he is responsible to give it back to you. If you dont trust the individual dont lend. That being said, its a zechus to use your sefer torah and if you trust someone definitely loan it.
Shakespeare should have said, Neither a loaner nor a borrower be. The correct word is lend not loan.
I just came across this:
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/256672/halachically-speaking.html
Do they have an Aron that can hold 3 Sifrei Torah? If not, it might be problematic.
CTLAWYER, it is a common practice in modern english to verbilize nouns e.g. authored, loaned, impacted
Unless you know the individuals who will actually handle the sefer torah (aka who will be the baal koreh, will the hagbah/gellilah know how to lift/tie) I’d be reluctant to share a sefer with others, even if you know they are erliche yidden. I’ve seen damage to a sefer torah caused by an inexperienced baal koreh who used a yad with too much pressure directly on the parchment scraping the ink.
“A sefer Torah should not be taken out of the shul to be read in a separate minyan somewhere else. Exceptions are a house of mourning and for other special circumstances (and even then there should be a special place for it). There are those (Maaseh Rav 129 and Rav Sonnenfeld) who are very stringent about this” – Tefilla k’Hilchata ch. 16 Halacha 7 with footnotes)
CTL: If I owned a sefer torah I probably would not allow someone I don’t know well to borrow it.
CTL, the Mishna Berura says (135:47) says that it is a denigration to take the sefer from its place.People should go to it not it to people. Apparently Rav Fuchs used the term “shul” because that is the usual place of a sefer Torah.Here the person already has a sefer Torah so there is no big need. In fact, the only reason for three is not to inconvenience the tzibbor by making them wait for it to be rolled to different places. However, as the rav of my community pointed out, the time taken for hagba’ah is almost as much.
Avi K, This MB would answer the Tosfas Yom Tov’s kashye about laining on shabbos and not worrying about carrying the Sefer Torah. People go to it and not that it goes to the people.
CTL, who says that J. Levine Co. is acting properly? There was also a company that printed siddurim on Shabbat.
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