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January 23, 2017 4:57 am at 4:57 am #619076LightbriteParticipant
To the other day I sneezed while gargling mint mouthwash, gagging and swallowing a big gulp in the process.
I spit out the little that was left in my mouth, then tried to cough out rest, but alas, twas too far gone the rabbit hole.
Did I need to say a Borei Nefashos after swallowing the mouthwash?
Thank you!
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January 23, 2017 5:03 am at 5:03 am #1210854JosephParticipantYou make the same bracha achrona you’d make after drinking bleach.
January 23, 2017 10:31 am at 10:31 am #1210856Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI hope you didn’t swallow 3 ounces – the amount necessary for a bracha achrona!
And btw, Joseph is right – you don’t need a bracha achrona.
January 23, 2017 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #1210857mik5ParticipantHow many oz. did you swallow?
January 23, 2017 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #1210858iacisrmmaParticipantAt this point it doesn’t make a difference. It is for sure past the time of digestion and even if a brocha was required (and may not need one as mouthwash is not a drink) it can’t be made now.
January 23, 2017 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #1210859Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantIacisrmma- she needs to know if she should do teshuva for it or not. But I’m pretty positive she doesn’t need to:
1. I’m sure she didn’t swallow 3 ounces
2. It’s not a food/drink. Do you make a bracha on medicine?
January 23, 2017 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #1210860☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThis question is outside the Scope of my knowledge.
January 24, 2017 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1210861LightbriteParticipantIt was def way less than 3 ounces. I think the cap that I pour it into is about an ounce. I didn’t even swallow a full cap-full either.
However, I really did gulp down a lot. Enough to question if I should call the Poison Control, but baruch Hashem it wasn’t that bad.
So I don’t need to make an after bracha, it seems.
Though, you asked if I say a bracha on medicine. There is a special bracha to say on medicine. I really want to get into the routine of saying it though when I do take medicine.
Thanks for reminding me. I should print it and post it on my fridge.
DY: +1
January 24, 2017 1:32 am at 1:32 am #1210862MammeleParticipantDY, lol
January 24, 2017 2:12 am at 2:12 am #1210863Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“There is a special bracha to say on medicine.”
If you are talking about what I think you are talking about, it’s a tefila, not a bracha.
“Enough to question if I should call the Poison Control, but baruch Hashem it wasn’t that bad.”
You definitely don’t make brachos on poison.
January 24, 2017 2:26 am at 2:26 am #1210864LightbriteParticipantLol!! Almost spit out my vegetables reading that!!! You’re so right! So funny.
Imagine Borei Ra’al:
“Blessed are You, L-rd our G?d, King of the universe, Creator of numerous living beings and their needs, for all the poisons You have created with which to destroy the body of every living being. Blessed is He who takes away the Life of the worlds.” [G-d FORBID]
January 24, 2017 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1210865LightbriteParticipantWait what if the poison tastes good?
The mouthwash didn’t taste so great when I swallowed it, but a lot of that was psychological. I knew that it had fluoride, which is toxic if swallowed in high doses (way beyond what they put in our water).
If someone knowingly ate a yummy poisoned muffin, would a borei nefashos be appropriate?
January 24, 2017 3:07 am at 3:07 am #1210866iacisrmmaParticipantThe tefilla before taking medicine is found in Shulchan Aruch Orech Chaim Reish Lamed Sif Daled and Mishna Brura Sif koton vav. YHI ROTZON MELIFFANECHAH H-SHEM ELOKAI SHEHYEHEY EISEK ZEH LI LEREFUAH KI ROFAY CHINAM ATAH.
January 24, 2017 3:23 am at 3:23 am #1210867Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“If someone knowingly ate a yummy poisoned muffin, would a borei nefashos be appropriate?”
Dead people can’t make brachos. Another reason not to eat poisoned muffins – you will lose out on a bracha achrona.
January 24, 2017 3:28 am at 3:28 am #1210868LightbriteParticipantLU +1
… Though, it is possible to consume a whole muffin and have time to spare for an after bracha. I think. Def not going to try this at home. So maybe it’s best to trust you on this one 😉
January 24, 2017 4:22 am at 4:22 am #1210869Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“….al kol mah shebarasa l’hachayos bahem” doesn’t sound too applicable here…
oh right, we were talking about “al hamichya”, uh.. don’t think the words, “michya” would apply here either.
January 24, 2017 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #1210870MenoParticipant“Enough to question if I should call the Poison Control”
Is mouthwash poison? Don’t some alcoholics drink it when they can’t get real alcohol?
January 24, 2017 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #1210871Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI think there’s a warning on the label about its being dangerous to swallow. I don’t know if alcoholics are a proof.
On the other hand, if it were really dangerous, we wouldn’t put it in our mouths in the first place.
Maybe it’s only dangerous if you swallow a lot of it.
But then again, I don’t think most people make sure to keep mouthwash out of reach of children which presumably they would do if it were really dangerous.
Well actually, my mother does move my mouthwash when my niece is over, but she is the only person I ever heard of who does that. Does anyone else do that?
January 24, 2017 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #1210872LightbriteParticipantMouthwashes may contain one or more of the following poisonous ingredients* that can be harmful if swallowed at high doses:
-Fluoride (sodium fluoride)
-Chlorhexidine gluconate
-Ethanol (ethyl alcohol)
-Hydrogen peroxide
-Methyl salicylate
*Compilation from NYTimes Health Guide pages on Fluoride and Mouthwashes; some ingredients may be missing from this list.
January 24, 2017 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1210873LightbriteParticipantFrom Crest:
Never Swallow Mouthwash
Mouthwashes and mouth rinses are meant to be spit out, not swallowed, because even natural mouthwash products may contain ingredients that can be poisonous if ingested in large amounts.
Steps To Follow If You Happen To Swallow A Minimal Amount Of Mouthwash
If you, or a child, should swallow a small amount of fluoride mouthwash (or any other type), there’s no reason to panic, but do take care to avoid it happening again by taking some of these steps:
Supervise Children
Don’t let children use a mouthwash unsupervised. It has been recommended that children between ages 6 and 12 need to supervised when they use a mouthwash. Many companies use child-resistant caps to help you out. Be sure they spit it out. Children younger than 6 years may have trouble controlling the swallowing reflex, so mouthwash is not recommended for young children.
Pay Attention
Don’t let family members distract you when you’re performing your oral care routine; distraction might make you forget to spit and you may swallow the mouthwash by mistake. Go into the bathroom and shut the door.
Steps To Follow If You Happen To Swallow A Large Amount Of Mouthwash
Swallowing small amounts of mouthwash may leave you feeling a bit queasy or may even cause diarrhea, but these symptoms should pass. However, if your child or someone you know overdoses on mouthwash by drinking and swallowing a large amount, take these steps:
Seek Help
Call the National Poison Control Center at 1-800-222-1222 for quick, confidential help. Do not try to make the person who swallowed the mouthwash vomit it up. Instead, be sure you have information about the victim’s age, weight, and the type and amount of product swallowed. It’s very important to have the product close by so you can tell the operator the specific ingredients.
Check The Label
Check the label to see which of these potentially poisonous products the mouthwash contains: fluoride or ethanol. Severe symptoms of a mouthwash overdose related to these ingredients may include dizziness, drowsiness, trouble breathing, or, in serious cases, convulsions or a coma. In severe cases, head for the emergency room, and bring the mouthwash bottle with you if possible.
—Crest
January 24, 2017 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #1210874☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIs mouthwash poison? Don’t some alcoholics drink it when they can’t get real alcohol?
Didn’t Kitty Dukakis end up in the hospital for drinking mouthwash?
January 25, 2017 12:51 am at 12:51 am #1210875Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantnauseous
January 25, 2017 3:03 am at 3:03 am #1210876LightbriteParticipantMeno: Alcohol is an ingredient in many mouthwashes. Sodium fluoride is not in all mouthwashes.
Alcohol dries the mouth. Dries the gums. My dentist recommended alcohol-free mouthwash with sodium fluoride. That’s what I swallowed. It wouldn’t make anyone drunk.
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