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How can you be successful for parnasa if college is not for you acedemically. and not cut out for full day learning. What path is open to take. Only serious inquires please answer. Any advice would be valued.
Real estate agents don’t need college.
take over father-in-laws business…
You might want to try a field where you would work physically. Ex: electrician, plumber, heating/AC… – they make a nice living and there’s no hard schooling involved.
Hashem gives everyone different gifts and talents. Look within and figure out what you like or what you are good at and then try to develop that or incorporate that into some field. If you are artistic or witty, you might go into graphic design or advertising and take courses for that or intern for that so you can get a job later on.
If you like working with your hands you might take courses for computer technician or mechanic or even carpentry. If you are musically inclined you might pursue something in the musical field, etc. If you do something you enjoy or you are good at, you will most likely be more successful at it.
Start at a community college (2 year program). Also you can try something artsy.
Boro park girl: Actually to become a licensed mechanical engineer (plumber, electrician, HVAC) you need to work for a licensed individual for 7 years. The licensing tests are also extremely difficult. They ask many questions about subjects you will never come across in the line of the work. (ie. ohms, resistance)
Most people who you see advertised in the phonebook that say they are licensed, are actually working under someone else’s license.
Would an on-line college be an option?
guy-ocho: Thank you for dispelling the myth posted by Boro Park Girl that “there is no hard schooling involved” in trades like plumbing, electricity and HVAC. No one – not even Boro Park Girl – wants to sleep in a home that was wired by an electrician who had no hard schooling. An unschooled electrician is a fire hazard with legs. And plumbers are in the front line of the work for public health.
nfgo3: thanks, anytime.
I happen to be a licensed mechanical engineer. The studying and tests were grueling. In the end I am happy I did it. I spent 1 month trying to figure out the whole concept of “ohms”. As a residential electrician, most people will never come across such things. Not sure why it takes up a fair percentage of the test.
A few years after I received my “Master Electrician” license, I had some sort of mid-life crisis and changed profession.
There are many people however who have a “Journey-man” license. Which is a lower level license. That might be a good idea for someone not interested in training for as long.
when you say licensed mechanical engineer, are you talking about obtaining your PE license? That’s very different from being a plumber.
I was a “Master Electrician. Not a plumber. Plumbing, HVAC and Electric are all considered mechanical engineering professions
Anyone that is looking for the easy way out is gong to “hurt” someone else in the end. If you are going to do something do it right from the start. Be the best you can be at anything you choose and put ALL your effort into it.
guy-ocho, since when? I’m a mechanical engineer and I’ve never heard plumbers referred to as mechanical engineers.
Auto mechanic is a really good field. You can train for that in under a year, and jobs are everywhere
SJSinNYC: A plumber, according to wikipedia is a mechanical engineer.
And to paraphrase from the IBC (building code), it states: After rough framing is complete and inspected, mechanicals can be installed.*
*Mechanicals as referenced to in IBC constitutes electric, plumbing, natural gas and HVAC systems.
Any form of skilled labor makes a nice living. A master electrician does have to learn his job well, but when he does he can charge $150 to show up and then move upwards from there.
There is a nonprofit organization in NYC that trains carpenters for free over 17 weeks, slightly longer than one college semester. I think there are similar programs for plumbing and electricity.
i highly recommend touro college in boro park, they work with all types of people and have separate nights and floors for men and women. alot of the men are chasidish and dont even know how to speak the correct way, and need alot of help writing and doing the work and the professors are so happy to help, so i suggest you try them. their number is 718-871-6187.
I believe that if someone truly wants a job or a career they can figure out a way to do it.
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I had a friend who was a very successful fire insurance adjuster. He adjusted the fires so his clients would collect insurance, and he got about 30% of the take. He did very well, but because he was a stalwart anti-Zionist, Aviva insurance, which as you can tell by the name is run by the Mossad, had him prosecuted on charges that he adjusted the fires a little too well.
For about two more years he will be learning full-time in a Federally supported koilel, and then he will use his knowledge to become a Medicare claims adjuster.
In other words, he will adjust the claims so his clients get reimbursed by Medicare. Hopefully he will not also adjust the patients!
He never went to college; he started his career when he was 13 because his father, who was tired of hiring outside help to adjust his building fires, gave him a blowtorch as a bar mitzvah gift.
Reb Berel, are you by any chance a member of the illustrious Schmoigerman dynasty of Creedmoor?
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