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February 14, 2011 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #595017canineMember
If someone was born or passed away on a non-“ibber yur”, does there birthday or yartzeit fall out on Adar Rishon or Adar Sheini on a leap year?
February 14, 2011 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #742305gefenParticipantWell, one of my daughters was born in Adar – not a leap year. When a leap year comes around (as this year), technically her birthday is Adar Sheini. However, she prefers to celebrate 3 birthdays this year: her english birthday, a birthday “koton” in Adar Aleph and then her real birthday in Adar Sheini. Can’t argue with her logic. Why not celebrate as much as you can? 🙂
February 14, 2011 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #742306Feif UnParticipantI believe Adar Sheini
February 14, 2011 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #742307600 Kilo BearMembersheini. cf: Purim.
February 14, 2011 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #742308☕️coffee addictParticipantbirthday- adar sheini
yahrtzeit- machlokes (so should be machmir and do both)
:p> mbachur <d:
February 14, 2011 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #742309ZeesKiteParticipantIf I’m correct, it’s Adar Rishon.
February 14, 2011 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #742310boredstiffParticipantMy birthday is in Adar. When I was younger I used to celebrates in both Adars- not, I only celebrate in the second Adar- which is officially the real one.( trying to push off my birthday!)
February 14, 2011 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #742311WolfishMusingsParticipantIt’s Adar Sheini.
This leads to an interesting phenomenon that we’re experiencing right now. Since thirteen years ago was not a leap year, there are no Bar Mitzvahs this month. Everyone born in Sh’vat 5758 had their Bar Mitzvah last month and everyone born in Adar 5758 is having their Bar Mitzvah next month. So this month (Adar I 5771) there are no Bar Mitzvahs.
The Wolf
February 14, 2011 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #742312cutie pieMemberBirthdays are in Adar Sheini!! (My birthday is in Adar and in a leap year it’s the second Adar!) 🙂
February 14, 2011 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #7423131st timerParticipantMy husband has YarTzeit in Adar, so he said Kaddish on the night in the first Adar and by Adar Shayni he will keep the full YarTzeit as he always does
February 14, 2011 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #742314IDKyetMembermy birthday is in adar rishon, as in it was a leap year when i was born… i always said that i didn’t have a birthday, which makes for an interesting topic of conversation…
February 14, 2011 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #742315WolfishMusingsParticipantmy birthday is in adar rishon, as in it was a leap year when i was born… i always said that i didn’t have a birthday, which makes for an interesting topic of conversation…
The real people impacted are the people who are born on the 30th day of Adar I. They’re the Jewish equivalents of those who are born on Feb 29.
The Wolf
February 14, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #742316always hereParticipantmy youngest was born in Adar Beis.. she’s always thrilled for leap years to celebrate her ‘real’ birthday.
all 4 of my grandparents, a’h, have Adar yahrzeits… I’m so glad I receive (mail) reminders; I’ve received for this month… now I’m curious if I’ll receive for Adar Beis as well.
February 14, 2011 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #742317twistedParticipantYou can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan.
February 14, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #742318well meaning busy bodyMemberSome others who do not have annual birthdays are those born
30 Cheshvon (1st day Rosh Chodesh Kislev)
& 30 Kislev (1st day Rosh Chodesh Teves)
February 14, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #742319twistedParticipantYou can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan. Events of Adar 1 are observed in Shvat of a pashut year.
February 14, 2011 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #742320twistedParticipantYou can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan. Events of Adar 1 are observed in Shvat of a pashut year.
February 14, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #742321canineMemberAnother intresting point is that if Baby Reuven is born on 20 Adar Aleph and Baby Shimon is born a few weeks later on 5 Adar Beis, and then 13 years later there is only one Adar, and both Reuven and Shimon commit a death penalty crime on the exact same day of the 15th of Adar, the “older” Reuven is off the hook and free since he is still a minor, while the “younger” Shimon is executed as an adult.
February 14, 2011 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #742322rabbiofberlinParticipantcanine…there is a much easier example and much more “lemaaseh” bar mitzvahs ! a boy born on the second month of adar -after his friend born on the first month of adar-will have his bar mitzvah earlier in a non-leap year, if he is born on an earlier day of the month.
February 14, 2011 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #742323moishyParticipantdoes anyone know if 12 years ago was a leap year?
February 15, 2011 6:50 am at 6:50 am #742324IDKyetMembertwisted-
is that really true? whats the source for it??
February 15, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #742325well meaning busy bodyMemberOther than Chabad which has a seder hayom for birthdays tehillim, learning, ???? Is any one aware of any other ?????? in “commemorating” birthdays in a torah context? I am not referring to specific landmark birthday such as ????
@ 3 etc
February 15, 2011 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #742326canineMemberWMBB: Bar Mitzvah date.
February 15, 2011 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #742327well meaning busy bodyMemberRE my previous post abput ????? ??? ?????
See these links I just don’t have the patience to click & paste
&/or summrize
February 15, 2011 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #742328well meaning busy bodyMemberK9 I am not referring to specific landmark birthday …
February 15, 2011 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #742329WolfishMusingsParticipantdoes anyone know if 12 years ago was a leap year?
5759 was not a leap year.
The Wolf
February 15, 2011 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #742330moishyParticipantthank you wolf
February 16, 2011 12:22 am at 12:22 am #742331observanteenMemberMy birthday is in Adar. I think my actual birthday is in Adar Shenini. Although I accept birthday presents in Adar Rishon too:)
February 16, 2011 1:00 am at 1:00 am #742332HuviMemberhow nout wedding anniverseries?? my husband says adar beis but i think he says that cus feels bad he might of forgotten
February 16, 2011 5:28 am at 5:28 am #7423332qwertyParticipantI recently heard a shiur about it. Basically, for mitzvah purposes we wait till the second Adar to be sure but for everything else we can use first one.
So for bar mitzvah we wait extra for the second Adar.
But for yartzeit we can use first Adar.
February 16, 2011 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #742334well meaning busy bodyMemberHuvi asked how about wedding anniverseries??
There are no halachos or minhagim involved, If it is your own day of gratitude to Hashem then one day is as good as the other.
February 17, 2011 12:11 am at 12:11 am #742335moishyParticipantwas 5760 a leap year? Thanx
February 17, 2011 2:44 am at 2:44 am #742336☕️coffee addictParticipantThis leads to an interesting phenomenon that we’re experiencing right now. Since thirteen years ago was not a leap year, there are no Bar Mitzvahs this month. Everyone born in Sh’vat 5758 had their Bar Mitzvah last month and everyone born in Adar 5758 is having their Bar Mitzvah next month. So this month (Adar I 5771) there are no Bar Mitzvahs.
it’s wierd though b/c in the hamodia theyre mentioning in the simcha section Bar Mitzvahs (gets you wondering)
:p> mbachur <d:
February 17, 2011 2:57 am at 2:57 am #742337WolfishMusingsParticipantwas 5760 a leap year? Thanx
5760 was a leap year.
Here’s how you figure out whether a year is a leap year or not.
Take the year and divide it by 19. Look at the remainder of that calculation. If the remainder is 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17 or 19, that year is a leap year.
5771 modulo 19 = 14, and hence 5771 is a leap year.
The Wolf
February 17, 2011 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #742338emanParticipantReply to Huvi
how nout wedding anniverseries?? my husband says adar beis but i think he says that cus feels bad he might of forgotten
It depends if your anniversery feels like a birthday or a yarzeit.
February 20, 2011 2:02 pm at 2:02 pm #742339canineMemberSomeone said if the event occured in Adar Rishon on an ibber yur, on a non ibber yur it is celebrated in Shevat. Anyone heard that?
February 20, 2011 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #742340candy613Memberit would be adar sheine… If one was born or passed during adar of a leap year it would be depending on if it was adar rishon or sheine. For example if one was born in the first adar during a leap year, and their bar mitzva is also during a leap year, then they would celebrate it during the first adar. Same goes with a yartzeit!
February 20, 2011 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #742341well meaning busy bodyMemberHere is an easy way to find out whehther a year is ?????
go to http://www.chabad.org/calendar/1000year_cdo/aid/6225/jewish/Date-Converter.htm
and try to convert a date in Adar 2 in that year to civil
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