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August 1, 2013 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #969062notsuchalamdan16Participant
i think nisht’s point is that 1. the OP decided to take a story and blow it up into something bigger and make it a religious and chumra fight when theres nothing to support that, 2. i have not been here long but zd does seem to have a vendetta against these types of things which explains nisht’s uneasiness 3. even if this ban were true none is forcing it upon anyone except those people in that community and 4. don’t hide behind your religion and say kol yisroel areivim and use it as an excuse to spread sin as chinam on those you don’t necessarily agree with hashkafically.
August 1, 2013 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #969063notsuchalamdan16Participanti think nisht’s point is that 1. the OP decided to take a story and blow it up into something bigger and make it a religious and chumra fight when theres nothing to support that, 2. i have not been here long but zd does seem to have a vendetta against these types of things which explains nisht’s uneasiness 3. even if this ban were true none is forcing it upon anyone except those people in that community and 4. don’t hide behind your religion and say kol yisroel areivim and use it as an excuse to spread sin as chinam on those you don’t necessarily agree with hashkafically.
August 1, 2013 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm #969064notsuchalamdan16Participanto and if your trying to save the world i don’t think the coffee room on yeshiva world is going to help anything its just for the sake of ranting and can only lead to extreme lashon hara
August 1, 2013 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #969065zahavasdadParticipantNot
The problem is people do not mix and discuss topics anymore.People tend to associate with like minded people. The only exception is the internet where people from all walks will come together and discuss things with different viewpoints. Since many do not use general sites like FB, YWN is the only place they might hear someone with a differnt view , so it is the proper place
August 1, 2013 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #969066notsuchalamdan16Participantthats a nice way of saying lets find anything we think is controversial and rip on it… you don’t even know for sure its true and you don’t know where or any of the details you completely jumped the gun just to rip when you saw the opportunity. and lets say it was in fact true and some chasidishe rebbe went and made such a ban YOUR the one to question him?! bringing it up can only lead to lashon hara nothing practical and nothing lemaysa so please leave saving the world to superman you accomplished nothing with this thread and the only thing you could have accomplished was bringing more bad publicity to a world that doesn’t need it. your not in the same league as any rebbe and said rebbe certainly would not have had to answer to you. and by the way every type of orthodoxy has kids at risk and going off the derech the motivation to go on a tv show is purely money
August 1, 2013 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #969067zahavasdadParticipantBy you statment, nothing is debateable , Why even have the coffee room. In fact why even discuss anything anywhere.
August 1, 2013 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #969068Veltz MeshugenerMemberThis goes back to the issue that was brought up in passing on the previous page. How many shmuzen do regular yeshiva guys get about how terrible zionism or lubavitch, or YCT are, despite not being shayach to those topics at all? Discussion is a worthwhile endeavor even if it will not directly lead to solving the problem under discussion. For example, in reaction to all the shmuzin I got about lubavitch, zionism, and YCT, I became a lubavitch zionist woman rabbi.
August 1, 2013 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #969069notsuchalamdan16Participantagain zd has no interest in any debate he wants to rip rip rip (proven by the fact that he made up a story) so he sits by his computer where no one knows who he is and does just that.
August 1, 2013 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #969070Veltz MeshugenerMemberZahavasdad: Starts debate
Notsuchalamdan: attacks ad hominem, claiming that all Zahavasdad wants to do is rip, rip, rip.
Sounds like maybe your not such a lamdan, bro.
August 1, 2013 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #969071zahavasdadParticipantWhere did I make up the story
I posted where to get it. Some do not like the NY Post, but It was clearly there.
August 1, 2013 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #969072nishtdayngesheftParticipant“Where did I make up the story
I posted where to get it. Some do not like the NY Post, but It was clearly there.”
What was there was NOT what you said it was. As was pointed out a bunch of times already.
You said there was a ban ion bike riding. The Prust article said they were forbidden from RIDING BIKES TO SCHOOL. A completely different situation.
August 1, 2013 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #969073nishtdayngesheftParticipantVM,
“How many shmuzen do regular yeshiva guys get about how terrible zionism or lubavitch, or YCT are, despite not being shayach to those topics at all?”
I don’t know, how many? I do not recall any from my days in Yeshiva, nor have my children reported any to me. So I am not aware.
But either way, the difference was appropriately addressed in earlier comments.
August 1, 2013 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #969074Veltz MeshugenerMemberWell, perhaps the yeshivas that you went to were more sane than the ones I went to. Seems to have worked out for you – now I’m skeptical of everything a rabbinic authority says, and you’re Moish Temimus.
August 1, 2013 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #969075ToiParticipantseriously, i went to a very central-minded school and we werent allowed to roller-blade to school. doing something kids dont like doesnt mean its a chumrah.
August 2, 2013 1:48 am at 1:48 am #969076agittayidParticipantI just read the article in the NY Post.
An interesting issue worth discussing is the comment by a parent quoted in the article. He feels that the ban was instituted because bike riding empowers kids to “go wherever they want . . . farther from their parents and the community, it brings a lot of bad things.”
August 2, 2013 3:00 am at 3:00 am #969077popa_bar_abbaParticipantI used to ride a bike when I was in a band.
August 2, 2013 4:16 am at 4:16 am #969078Josh31ParticipantIn some cultures the more spiritually pure would not wear shoes, probably to limit mobility.
Judaism limits this to Yom Kippur and 9 Av.
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