Bike Riding

You might fix it if it breaks.

Who said it was banned?

Since a bike is a more complex mechanism than a stroller, it is likely to break and on Shabbos it would involve doing a melacha. All complex mechanical things are banned on Shabbos.

In urban area, it is halachically allowed but very dangerous since if you bump into a car, the person on the bike loses. In places with no motor vehicles, there is no such problem.

What is this thread referring to?

ZD,

You have not responded to the crux of the comment, that it frankly is not your concern. nor have you explained why hearing it from someone else is not hearsay. You did not see the Ban. You did not hear it from the person who IT IS BANNED.

And if they told you directly about some alleged ban, would it not make sense to ask THEM about it?

if you do not learn to keep a civil tongue you will be banned

Who is banned? When are they banned? Where are they banned? Israel? NY? Boys? Girls? Older girls, ladies? Shabbos? Yom Tov? or maybe you mean on the sidewalk?

I agree that bike riding should be banned.

All exercise should be banned.

Virtually everyone bans biking on SHabbos.

Since many Hasidische Rebbes are also concerned about everyday life in their communities, they may ban biking in their community for safety reasons.

“they may ban biking in their community for safety reasons.”

A more appropriate ban for health reasons might be to limit ones intake at tikkun to 2 pieces of herring and a cracker.

Obvious why it was banned.

Could lead to dancing.

re bikes leading to dancing: Search for fixed gear bike ballet on Youtube. You’ll see that yichusdik is not joking.

I still think that the LOGICAL place to get information is from the source. And it would only make sense to question it, if you were impacted.

However if people just want to conjecture in hateful manner, far be it from me to be surprised.

ZD,

It is very simple to ascertain how something is being, and going to be discussed.

To whom and how a question is posed and directed is a extremely clear indicator of the intent. As well as past history.

I need not say anything further.

What takana,

I have not seen nor heard of it. My Rav never mentioned anything of the sort.

It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it is a non issue for me.

The only thing that I can think of what’s going on is that bike riding was banned for females in some communities because that it’s not tznius, and even if they’re dressed tznius, “es pas nisht” for a frum girl to ride her bike.

zd, it doesn’t seem from the comments above that there are any good reasons to be machmir not to ride a bike. Nishtday stood up for the rights of frumkeit, and made a kiddush hashem by being rude to Jews having a civil conversation and pretending that bans don’t exist (sarcasm goes here).

Good thing we don’t live in whatever communities decided that bike riding is assur.

The only thing that came up from the ny post when I googled it was an article from a year ago that chassidishe schools put a ban on bike riding to school. That article put yidden in a very bad light. If that’s what you’re talking about, I would say that it could be it was banned because of sakana. Maybe the schools were afraid of someone getting hurt on their bike on the way to or from school. That happened to me once. I was riding home from school when I was in elementary school and I lost control of the bike and I rode into traffic. Baruch Hashem I was fine. A week later the principal went to every classroom and said that everyone who leaves school must be supervised. “We had an incident a week ago where a kid got hurt and I don’t want to be responsible for accidents like that.” I hadn’t realized someone had told the principal on me.

ZD,

Unless you see a different article, (and I shamefully admit that I looked it up, and of course the web site is sickening) because there is no information there at all.

It talks about biking to school, not a general ban.

There is some misinformation somewhere.

ZD,

Your examples actually proves the fallacy of that supposition.

If you would look at the comments about Cholov Yisroel, you would see that the overwhelming majority of comments were saying that there is no reason to be makpid, and there were responses explaining why it is a good reason to be makpid, however, I do not recall seeing anyone who is makpid putting down those who aren’t makpid, as were a goodly number of the comments by those who think you SHOULD NOT be makpid.

Huge difference.

Another similar case is if someone choses to use a specific hasgacha, there were some here who went off the deep end, to the extent that they would BAN an item, such as Twizzlers, if it had an additional level of hashgacha.

And most of those taking on additional chumras are not “veering” from the Torah, they base their chumrah on general halacha, they may be carrying it a bit further than you would. (Do not bring in Burka Women to try to prop your argument, the problem with some of their adopted extremism specifically contradicts other halacha) On the other hand, SOME of the meikilim cast aside normative halacha and search for any available possible kula even when adopting such a kula is in contradiction to other kulas.

In addition, schools of thought that specifically teach hereticsm (think Farber) are open to criticism lest there are those that would fall into their trap.

And, to specifically address bike riding, I do not understand how schools not letting children bike to school can create damage to the community, or any community at that.

Why should it be banned? Isnt all the ppl saying we should all have bikes instead of cars???????

I take issue with it because kol yisrael areivim zeh lazeh, and I care that Jews everywhere remain halachically committed and intelligent. When some Jews make a ban that is unnecessary and harmful, that should be troubling to Jews everywhere.

Since when has the New York Post known anything about the frum community in ny? you trust them now??

On a related point, where is your derech eretz? why do you always address people so harshly, and get your comments moderated so often? relax a little bit.