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I’m sure there are a lot of people from the Five Towns and Far Rockaway who are members of Yeshiva World. What do you like about living there. Maybe the six pizza shops in 4 blocks? (if YWM allows even some problems). What else:
shor yoshuv and sushi metsuyan!!
lol its 3 pizza stores in 1 block lol
It’s an eclectic neighborhood. All types of frum Jews in one place.
What is this? A modified version of the “Where do you live?” thread?
maybe we just KNOW people who live there….
Azi, I think Lawrence’s nickname is Larry. You should call it Larry’s hardware.
west lawrence
West Larry?
I think it is Azi, so it’s Azi’s hardware.
I was just in Far Rockaway for shbs and was so impressed!!!! Everyone was so nice and welcoming they all said good shbs (something I never see in my hometown)!!!
Thanx so much all u far rkwy ppl for being such gracious hosts!!! can’t wait till next time!!
I have often heard that about Far Rockaway, Myshadow. I once read that in a community which shall remain nameless, people are very makpid NOT to respond Good Shabbos. I find that appalling, and I did not believe that it was true until I experienced it. where I live, my husband and children, and I are very quick to say good shabbos to everyone we meet, and even good morning to non-Jews who watch us as we pass by. I have never failed to ahve someone say it back to me with a smile.
I agree oomis, it happens all the time I say g’shbs and the person looks at me like do I know you.
I was wondering though, in part of the niceness of far rkwy was that Everyone said good shabbos including the men. Is that the norm?
where are you from myshadow? brooklyn?
yes men say good shabbos too, i think the more important question would be why should men Not say it, they have just as much responsibility to be decent humans w ahavas yisroel
I was wondering though, in part of the niceness of far rkwy was that Everyone said good shabbos including the men. Is that the norm?
It is my understanding that in any neighborhood you will find men who will be makdim b’sholom, but not initiate the hello with a female. They will, however, respond if she says Good Shabbos first. I just say GS, and I don’t stand on ceremony.
Far Rockaway is next to, but is not in the Five Towns ( Woodmere, Cedarhurst, Hewlett,Lawrence, Inwood ). West Lawrence doen’t exist on any maps. It was a name that was made up for the section of Far Rockaway closest to the border with the 5 Towns
to distinguish it from the rest of FR which at the time was crime-ridden and run down.
FR is in Queens and the 5 Towns are in Nassau County.
there is really nothing wrong with men responding (or even initiating) a good shabbos…its simply proper courtesy and it really bothers me when men completely ignore a girl who says g’shabb to them. all they havta do is reply a stam g’shabb and cont walking…noones asking to have a whole shmooze with you, just be polite!
I AM WAITING FOR JOSEPH’S & SQUEAK’S OPINION ON THE MATTER KEEPINENTERTAINED HAS DISCUSSED
Agreed, KeepinEntertained. No need to snub anyone..
For what it’s worth, she is absolutely right as far as I’m concerned.
Brooklyn is the best place to live by far everything is near you
Ask your LOR.
Many LOR’s take great exception to KeepenEntertained’s opinion.
azi, you are mistaken.
i think the question is, why is the girl greeting the man?
Sometimes it is instinctive to simply say GS to ANYONE who walks by, man or woman. In the great scheme of things, is it really SO terrible to be makdim b’sholom?
ames, that has nothing to do with it 🙂
I grew up in a community where everyone said good shabbos to each other. Granted, its a MO community so the men have no trouble saying good shabbos to women and vice versa. As more charedi people moved into the neighborhood, they were the odd ones out who would not say good shabbos. It can sometimes be rather embarrasing if you say GS to someone and they obviously don’t answer back.
Unfortunately, most of the neighborhood had changed to unfriendly and many people did not adopt the “minhag hamakom” to be courteous to their neighbors. Now, very few people say good shabbos to each other, except for people from one shul who still say good shabbos to everyone. Its a shame.
“you know what, i don’t think i would like it if a random girl on the street greeted my husband”
There are greetings and then there are GREETINGS. A simple good Shabbos, should not be out of line for anyone, but if anybody feels offended, they need not look up, but they can nod their head or mutter good shabbos in return, just to show derech eretz and ot embarrass another Yid in public.
(Just as a sidebar) : My dad once told me an interesting D’var Torah of why when we say “Sholom aleichem,” to someone, the response is in reverse, “Aleichem, sholom.”
Again, I do not recall in whose name this was said originally – but the reason that he was told, is that when Whe are makdim someone b’sholom, which is Hashem’s name, specifically because we are being makdim, we have a special shemirah on our health at that given moment. The person who was not makdim b’sholom, has no such shemirah on himself, therefore if he said Hashem’s name of “Sholom” and something happened between saying the Name and saying the word “aleichem,” he could have said Hashem’s name l’vatalah. At the time my dad told me this, he was trying to impress on me the idea of not making a bracha l’vatalah, that the Shem in any form is holy, and even when greeting someone, we must always be cognizant of that.
I wouldn’t think saying an innocent “good shabbos” would be considered a stumbling block, ames. Correct me if I’m wrong…
ames, you make a very good point.
hey i dunno about a “good shabbos” but NOTHING is innocent. how do you think you get to talk to a stranger? by greeting them in a normal way. so i guess it COULD be innocent, but it’s not necessarily staying that way.
please, raboissai- i never heard of a girl going over to a 50 yr old man, flutter her eyelashes and say “good shabbos”. Somehow, in my imagination, the wrong relationships start out very differently.
As to whether or not saying g’shabbos is correct- i’d say it’s a chumra/geder (an admirable one). We can’t touch a strange man/woman, we try not to speak to a strange man/woman
ha ha you’re right i can’t imagine myself going over to a 50-yr-old lady and telling her “good shoabbos.” maybe her granddaughter…
ha real funny ya all!!!
why is far rockaway always slapped along with the five towns? 5towns people are soooooooooooo different from far rockaway and i think everyone knows that
Ames, I think you have some insecurities, but don’t know if that should carry weight as a general practice.
First of all, doesn’t your husband think you are the most fabulous person he ever met, and would never even think about another woman? If not, try cooking him a fancier breakfast. That ought to do the trick.
But seriously, do you get upset if your husband walks into a CVS and there is a female cashier behind the counter? They always say hello. I mean this issue goes far beyond good shabbos. You must be nervous 24/7, and that is not healthy.
PY is right on target (especially his joke).
There IS such a thing as a casual hello. I give it many times each day. I never had any wrong intentions when I say hello to the train conductor; nor do I when I say hello to the 50 year old woman and her granddaughter (though in truth, I avoid saying hello or GS to young BY girls because it embarrasses them due to what they have been taught). I have ALWAYS said GS to the 50 year old woman, even going back to when I was 10 (was there ever such a time?). And I have NEVER taken it as anything more than casual, polite greeting when she returns the hello. I guess it goes by what we are taught to think of it – if we are told it can lead to improper relationships then that is what you will think is happening when someone greets you.
moish – try it on some grandma you see next time. You’ll totally make her week!
ames:
It depends on your upbringing.
1: whether you are OK saying good shabbos (Which is very different than hello, where it is the “Minhag HaMakom” to say Good Shabbos to everyone).
2: whether BBQ is better than a big dinner:)
Maybe if more people said “Good Shabbos” we wouldn’t have a big shidduch crisis. After all, who knows what two words can lead to.
(Of course I am joking.)
yossiea, when you’re not being conrtoversial and defensive, you are quite funny.
There are ways to word things appropriately and there is the way in which you did. Please refrain from these expressions in the future. Thank you. YW Moderator-72
***EDITED***** is a legal term on YWN?
NO. and thank you for catching it. YW Moderator-72
You can say “Please thank your wife for the delicious cooking and for her hospitality” if you are someone who does not talk directly to women.
It’s been fixed. Thank you.
lesschumras:
It depends on your upbringing, whether you are OK saying good shabbos (Which is very different than hello, where it is the “Minhag HaMakom” to say Good Shabbos to everyone).
Where it is Bedavka not (such as Mea Shiarim), you may be looked on funny
Squeak, thanks, I think.
I can’t fathom how it would be assur to say Good Shabbos to someone. We’re not talking about stopping and chapping a shmooze. In most cases we’re talking about the Jewish hello, you nod, say GS and keep walking. That has nothing to do with tznius, it’s just basic mentchlichkeit.
curious, no way – unless it’s MY grandmother. i’ll probably get invited to her house for coffee.
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