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    Is it halachically ok

    #1170375
    iacisrmma
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    Ask your Rav!

    #1170376
    Meno
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    Depends if you’re chareidi or modern orthodox.

    But seriously, it’s not a good idea to ask for halachic answers/advice in the coffee room. You have no way of knowing where the answers are coming from. You should have a Rav or a Rebbe with whom you can discuss these things. You mentioned in another thread that you are going into 8th grade. It’s an excellent time to develop a relationship with a Rebbe

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    One of the main issues would be the reason why you want to be a vegetarian. If it’s because you feel it’s WRONG to eat animals, that may be a problem, since the Torah says it’s not. Also, we are not supposed to equate human life and animal life. If you just don’t like eating meat, there’s nothing wrong during the week. On Shabbos and particularly Yomtov there may be a chiyuv to eat meat, but for that you definitely have to ask a sheilah.

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    dovrosenbaum
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    Ideological vegetarianism is problematic in my opinion, since the torah is clear that animals are meant to be subdued by humans. Animal rights is a contradiction in terms. And I find it reprehensible when alleged animal rights people support abortion, as most of them do.

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Meno & iacrsmma – great points!

    #1170380
    Mammele
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    If you’re asking because you’re considering it for yourself and your parents disagree — and you are under their care — it’s definitely not okay Halachically.

    #1170381
    Meno
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    There’s nothing like a Yiddish’e Mamme’le

    #1170382

    I actually had to write an essay why I why not I would be a vegetarian in order to get into college if you want some of my points….

    #1170383
    zogt_besser
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    It seems okay, though even Rav Kook saw it as an ideal and did not think vegetarianism should be the ideal until mashiach comes. l’maiseh, one issue you’d have is on yom tov, where many poskim (rambam, tur, etc) say you have to eat meat. Others say you don’t though (Tosafos, Ran, Magen Avraham). Ask your rav if you would be allowed to forgo meat on y”t, and it’s probably fine.

    #1170384
    charliehall
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    “Is it halachically ok”

    There are many great rabbis who are vegetarians so you have sources on which to rely. In any case there is never any Torah obligation to eat meat other than in Jerusalem on the festivals.

    I have not eaten meat or poultry in almost eight years, but I do eat dairy, fish, and (rarely) eggs. My wife is vegan. Being vegan can be much, much healthier.

    #1170385
    Abba_S
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    Many Rabbis didn’t trust that the meat was slaughtered properly and so didn’t eat meat or poultry.

    #1170386
    ☕️coffee addict
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    How do you know the manna was really soy

    The passuk says tofu eifu

    #1170387
    zogt_besser
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    “many great rabbis”

    How many do you know? The only ones I’m familiar with are R. Jonathan Sacks and a few random students of Rav Kook. It’s highly unusual and even the latter tend to eat meat on shabbos.

    #1170388
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    According to halacha, you are supposed to eat meat on Yom Tov, at least l’chatchila. If it really bothers someone, they should ask a sheilah.

    #1170389
    Mammele
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    If the OP is truly a kid, meeting his nutritional needs is harder on a vegetarian diet, especially since he most likely isn’t in charge of food shopping and cooking. And protecting our health is a commandment.

    I know you’re all talking in general, but he probably doesn’t see it that way.

    #1170391
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Mammele – good point.

    #1170392
    dovrosenbaum
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    I don’t see any ethical or nutritional/health benefits behind a vegetarian or vegan diet.

    I happen to eat products that are vegan or vegetarian, but that’s for kashrus reasons purely.

    I frankly think people should be more concerned with kashrus than shtusim like vegetarianism. Tolaim is a huge problem in vegetables; focus on not eating bugs.

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