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August 23, 2016 7:45 am at 7:45 am #618201
Is it halachically ok
August 23, 2016 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm #1170375iacisrmmaParticipantAsk your Rav!
August 23, 2016 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #1170376MenoParticipantDepends if you’re chareidi or modern orthodox.
But seriously, it’s not a good idea to ask for halachic answers/advice in the coffee room. You have no way of knowing where the answers are coming from. You should have a Rav or a Rebbe with whom you can discuss these things. You mentioned in another thread that you are going into 8th grade. It’s an excellent time to develop a relationship with a Rebbe
August 23, 2016 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1170377Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantOne of the main issues would be the reason why you want to be a vegetarian. If it’s because you feel it’s WRONG to eat animals, that may be a problem, since the Torah says it’s not. Also, we are not supposed to equate human life and animal life. If you just don’t like eating meat, there’s nothing wrong during the week. On Shabbos and particularly Yomtov there may be a chiyuv to eat meat, but for that you definitely have to ask a sheilah.
August 23, 2016 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #1170378dovrosenbaumParticipantIdeological vegetarianism is problematic in my opinion, since the torah is clear that animals are meant to be subdued by humans. Animal rights is a contradiction in terms. And I find it reprehensible when alleged animal rights people support abortion, as most of them do.
August 23, 2016 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #1170379Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantMeno & iacrsmma – great points!
August 23, 2016 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #1170380MammeleParticipantIf you’re asking because you’re considering it for yourself and your parents disagree — and you are under their care — it’s definitely not okay Halachically.
August 23, 2016 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1170381MenoParticipantThere’s nothing like a Yiddish’e Mamme’le
August 23, 2016 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #1170382HappygirlygirlMemberI actually had to write an essay why I why not I would be a vegetarian in order to get into college if you want some of my points….
August 23, 2016 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #1170383zogt_besserParticipantIt seems okay, though even Rav Kook saw it as an ideal and did not think vegetarianism should be the ideal until mashiach comes. l’maiseh, one issue you’d have is on yom tov, where many poskim (rambam, tur, etc) say you have to eat meat. Others say you don’t though (Tosafos, Ran, Magen Avraham). Ask your rav if you would be allowed to forgo meat on y”t, and it’s probably fine.
August 23, 2016 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1170384charliehallParticipant“Is it halachically ok”
There are many great rabbis who are vegetarians so you have sources on which to rely. In any case there is never any Torah obligation to eat meat other than in Jerusalem on the festivals.
I have not eaten meat or poultry in almost eight years, but I do eat dairy, fish, and (rarely) eggs. My wife is vegan. Being vegan can be much, much healthier.
August 23, 2016 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #1170385Abba_SParticipantMany Rabbis didn’t trust that the meat was slaughtered properly and so didn’t eat meat or poultry.
August 23, 2016 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1170386☕️coffee addictParticipantHow do you know the manna was really soy
The passuk says tofu eifu
August 23, 2016 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1170387zogt_besserParticipant“many great rabbis”
How many do you know? The only ones I’m familiar with are R. Jonathan Sacks and a few random students of Rav Kook. It’s highly unusual and even the latter tend to eat meat on shabbos.
August 23, 2016 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #1170388Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantAccording to halacha, you are supposed to eat meat on Yom Tov, at least l’chatchila. If it really bothers someone, they should ask a sheilah.
August 24, 2016 12:21 am at 12:21 am #1170389MammeleParticipantIf the OP is truly a kid, meeting his nutritional needs is harder on a vegetarian diet, especially since he most likely isn’t in charge of food shopping and cooking. And protecting our health is a commandment.
I know you’re all talking in general, but he probably doesn’t see it that way.
August 24, 2016 12:32 am at 12:32 am #1170391Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantMammele – good point.
August 24, 2016 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #1170392dovrosenbaumParticipantI don’t see any ethical or nutritional/health benefits behind a vegetarian or vegan diet.
I happen to eat products that are vegan or vegetarian, but that’s for kashrus reasons purely.
I frankly think people should be more concerned with kashrus than shtusim like vegetarianism. Tolaim is a huge problem in vegetables; focus on not eating bugs.
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