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January 21, 2011 4:55 am at 4:55 am #594380tyMember
recently discovered that it is much easier to get my two kids to bed by myself if I give them their bath together. My daughter is 28 months old and my son is 10 months old. , at what age do you think I should stop doing this? Just curious if anyone else does this and when to stop.
January 21, 2011 9:09 am at 9:09 am #731528PosterMemberMy son is about 2 years old, when he gets a bath at night, it’s after a long day of playing, running, you name it. I dont feel comfortable putting another child in that water. It is a time saver, but if your 28 month old is active and gets dirty or goes to playgroup, I wouldn’t suggest it.
January 21, 2011 10:18 am at 10:18 am #731529Mother in IsraelMemberI was told that it’s okay until the boy is 3 regardless of the girl’s age.
January 21, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #731530TheGoqParticipantposter are u implying that old canard that boys are dirtier than girls?
January 21, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #731531mewhoParticipantso the girl can be 10? no such thing as regardless of the girls age
January 21, 2011 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #731532aries2756ParticipantDid you happen to ask your pediatrician their advice on the subject?
January 21, 2011 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #731533smartcookieMemberIf you bathe them together, you should constantly change the water.
January 21, 2011 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #731534real-briskerMemberaries -pedetricans know halacha?
January 21, 2011 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #731535YW Moderator-80Memberdid you ask your plumber?
January 21, 2011 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #731536nfgo3MemberReligious education starts at 3 years. Perhaps that’s the age when a child should not share a bath tub with opposite-sex siblings.
January 21, 2011 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #731537NonsenseMemberI believe I heard from R. Moshe Ztz”l that even under three a boy should not see a woman undressed (i.e pool area), for whatever enters the eye stains the soul. Check it up.
January 21, 2011 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #731538popa_bar_abbaParticipantYochie:
So I’m guessing you blindfold your sons when they nurse.
January 21, 2011 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #731539NonsenseMemberHa! Dovid Hamelech was referring to this particularly when singing one of his praises to HaShem, that He placed the ‘Milk Factories’ in a different area than the animals. Don’t laugh at me. It’s a Gemorah. (R. Moshe too).
January 21, 2011 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #731540popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo you retract your comment that he cannot go to the pool area?
January 21, 2011 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #731541crdleMemberPopa- i almost fell of my chair when i read the blindfold comment! lollllllll
January 21, 2011 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #731542jesse123MemberPopa-really like that comment……
January 21, 2011 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #731543NonsenseMemberPBA
Again as stated before R. Moshe sais not to – Not I. Has nothing to do with me. (I hardly know how which way to hold a Gemarah). I suppose there is a difference between a mother, for necessity, and others. (Maybe for a nursing son it’s considered as a ???? ?????)
January 21, 2011 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #731544popa_bar_abbaParticipantI see. You don’t know which way to hold a gemara, but you are sure you have this “Rav Moshe” straight.
You think that a bathing suit is a problem, but nursing is not.
January 21, 2011 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #731545Princess RazalParticipantthere is def truth to what yochie is saying, my father is very ontop of how we bath the kids. and additionally i wouldn’t recommend it for hygene reasons.
January 21, 2011 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #731546NonsenseMemberDear PBA
Do I really have to take my cards out?
As for your question, in halachah there is no difference between the area covered by the modern world as provoking, and any other ???? ?????. So breastfeeding is not WORSE than any other covered part. Being so, a boy needs food, but does not necessarily have to be company to females undressed. What’s so hard to understand. Kedusha and it’s opposite enter a person even subconsciously.
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January 21, 2011 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #731547popa_bar_abbaParticipantIf by “cards out”, you mean sources- that would be appropriate.
So, how about some.
January 21, 2011 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #731548chayav inish livisumayParticipantyochie inappropate for such a kodoshdika site. in the alter heim ppl didnt talk this way
especially for a guy
im pushit ashamed of the narishkeit
please close
January 22, 2011 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #731549Mother in IsraelMember“so the girl can be 10? no such thing as regardless of the girls age”
Me who–According to the posek I heard this from, a 10-year-old girl can bathe with a boy under 3.
January 23, 2011 2:25 am at 2:25 am #731550yankdownunderMemberty why don’t you ask your lor or a Gadol.
January 23, 2011 3:46 am at 3:46 am #731551NonsenseMemberPBA: My source – Heard from Rabbi Shmuel Dishon, I’ll have someone look up the source.
CIL – 1)What is so ‘inappropate’? 2)I wasn’t talking, just keying on my computer. 3)Who sais I’m a guy? 4) That’s the whole point, we’re trying to keep it (the world) a ‘kodoshdika site’!
January 23, 2011 4:30 am at 4:30 am #731552deiyezoogerMembermy thought on this topic is, when a child is old enough to question things then as parents you stop to bath them together. and by the way as cleanseness,both kids are dirty anyways,whats the big deal.
January 23, 2011 4:31 am at 4:31 am #731553tyMemberok
January 23, 2011 4:40 am at 4:40 am #731554mw13ParticipantAs always, all halacha li’maseh shailos should be asked to a qualified possek, not to bunch of anonymous posters who may or may not have any idea what they’re talking about.
January 23, 2011 4:56 am at 4:56 am #731555tyMemberthank youuuuuuuuuu
January 23, 2011 5:11 am at 5:11 am #731556mexipalParticipantrav chaim kanievski shlita was asked this question. its printed in derech sicha. i dont remember the answer
January 23, 2011 5:28 am at 5:28 am #731557chayav inish livisumayParticipantyochie
1)i think u know what was innapropriate abt what you “keyed”
2)in the alter heim people didnt “key” such things
3)Yochie is a nickname for yochanan
4)mitzve haba b’aveira is not mutar
January 23, 2011 6:03 am at 6:03 am #731558A23ParticipantChayav,
Yochie can also be a nickname for Yocheved.
January 23, 2011 6:50 am at 6:50 am #731559i am hereMemberBathing one dirty kid or two does not make a diff in a tub of water they are both dirty.
Until they start asking questions.
January 23, 2011 9:56 am at 9:56 am #731560watermelonMemberIf the boy has enough mud on him,it’s as if he’s dressed!
January 25, 2011 2:54 am at 2:54 am #731561aries2756ParticipantYour pediatrician would absolutely have more experience (and have spoken to more Rabbonim, gone to more conferences) to know when and if there is an issue halachacly or otherwise; what to look out for and when to stop. Does anyone here have more experience than a pediatrician?
January 25, 2011 5:20 am at 5:20 am #731562real-briskerMemberaries – Regarding halacha – YES a Rov.
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