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February 7, 2016 2:04 am at 2:04 am #617185JosephParticipant
What Seforim be a good Bar Mitzvah gift? And how does giving seforim compare to other Bar Mitzvah gift possibilities?
February 7, 2016 5:39 am at 5:39 am #1136931yitzykParticipantIt depends on the giver and the recipient. A very wealthy person can give a set of seforim, while a person of lesser means can give an individual but still meaningful sefer. Seforim are less appropriate coming from a person who never looks at them, or going to a boy who will never look at them. Coming from a chosuvah talmid chochom, it is seen as a personal recommendation and endorsement for the bar mitzvah boy to read that particular sefer.
If you feel that the bochur will use the sefer, (even if not for a few years) a sefer is a good idea. If he is a lamdun, a less common but still heard of sefer is okay. If he is less knowledgable, more modern, or non-scholarly, an English sefer or even a book might be more useful. Some ideas might include:
– Rabbi Ribiat’s 39 Melochos 4-volume set (useful but not cheap)
– Rabbi Bodner’s Brochos Guide
– Any new Biography
– Amazing Facts (book 4? just came out)
– Artscroll Rashi (small, medium, large)
– Artscroll Shas (just kidding)
– Many new seforim and books come out every month. Anything that ‘just came out’ is safe to assume that he does not have it yet.
I am sure that any decent seforim store can assess you and your description of the recipient, and make a few recommendations.
Of course the bottom line is, anything you give ought to be appreciated, and it doesn’t matter that much what you give.
February 7, 2016 7:52 am at 7:52 am #1136932ytejewboyParticipantgive him a video game or money
February 7, 2016 8:03 am at 8:03 am #1136933ABS-SAParticipantIf the local Torah bookstore is having a sale on Mesilas Yesharim, it is best not to give it, because the Bar Mitzvah boy may get twenty copies and feel like people are trying to tell him something!
February 7, 2016 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1136934TheGoqParticipantHmm shouldn’t we first ask if giving a bar mitzvah gift is allowed? i know the op did not ask about this but I’ve decided that’s what this thread is gonna be about.
February 7, 2016 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #1136935JosephParticipantMishna Brura seems to be the most given set of seforim at a Bar Mitzvah.
February 7, 2016 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #1136936squeakParticipantThe brisker rav used to give his sefarim to bar mitzvah boys and hide a $50 bill in the pages (in those days a lot of money). A few months later he would visit the boy’s house ostensibly to look at the shelves of new sefarim he had amassed. He would then open the sefer he had given and take back the $50. Never once had the boy actually opened the sefer. Moral of the story?
February 7, 2016 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #1136937JosephParticipantHe should’ve put it on an earlier page.
February 7, 2016 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1136938ubiquitinParticipantLol @ TheGoq
when the minhag of giving christian confirmation gifts at a Bar mitzvah start?
Squeak
“Moral of the story?”
That the Brisker Rav’s seforim are above the level of a 13 year old?
that people believe all sorts of nonsensical stories?
February 7, 2016 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #1136939mazal77ParticipantAs the mother of a few boys, I say give money. After the last bar mitzvah, we are surrounded by seforim, that will probably will not be opened as we have own quite a few copies of them. We have no additional shelf space and the seforim are in every nook and cranny, in corners all over the house. Let us say, we got swamped but the amount of seforim as gifts. And, no I do not do re-gifting. We appreciated the personalized gifts, like belts, cufflinks, garment bag, travel bag, toiletry bag, robe. Those are some nice ideas, other then seformim.
February 7, 2016 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #1136940flatbusherParticipantSome of the suggestions mentioned above are pretty common and the bar mitzvah boy can end up with more than one set. What I find to be a good gift and one that is not commonly given are seforim focusing on tefilah. It’s good even for a boy who is not such a strong learner and everyone davens.
February 7, 2016 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1136941screwdriverdelightParticipant1) The Brisker Rav lived in Eretz Yisroel. Why would he have $50 bills?
2) If he gave it, how may he take it back?
3) Why would he put in a $50 bill and not a $1 (or a piece of paper, or hair, for that matter)?–or was the point that the money could be kept, but only if he uses it?
4) How does the fact that the bill was still there prove that he never opened it?
5) A lot of people have a lot of s’forim which they use only from time to time. The fact that after a few months, the boy was still finishing shas and hadn’t yet the opportunity to peruse the Rav’s Seifer doesn’t mean anything. If the seifer had been opened, we would be hearing something about our dor where 13 year old boys are learning Brisker Ravs before they know anything else.
February 7, 2016 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #1136942ShiurimMember– The Brisker Rov’s seforim were published posthumously.
– Minchas Chinuch is always popular, along with the Ketzos, and seforim like that. The Bar Mitzvah Bochur doesn’t need to use the seforim the day he turns 13; they will stay with him his whole life.
February 8, 2016 2:27 am at 2:27 am #1136943funnyboneParticipantYankel Miller says he likes instead of seforim to give an umbrella; he’s sure that one day it’ll rain and the boy will open it.
February 8, 2016 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #1136945flatbusherParticipantMazal77: I really didn’t think about it but what you say makes a lot of sense. I knew someone who had a whole room just filled with their sons’ BM seforim, and true too form, most were never used.
February 8, 2016 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1136946apushatayidParticipantSo thats why there arent many people who own a copy of the Gri’z in “stenslach”.
February 8, 2016 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm #1136947squeakParticipantYou are all excellent at seeing trees. Now here’s a secret. If you climb up and look over them you will be able to see there is a forest. I either made up the story entirely or I altered some details to protect the innocent. Now try again – if you wish – to find a moral in the story.
February 9, 2016 12:03 am at 12:03 am #1136948☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe moral of the story is that squeak is the protector of the innocent.
February 9, 2016 12:48 am at 12:48 am #1136949squeakParticipant<bows>
February 9, 2016 1:10 am at 1:10 am #1136950homerMemberShearim B’Tefilah
February 9, 2016 4:00 am at 4:00 am #1136951apushatayidParticipantSo squeak is a mechaber seforim too? When did you sneak into homes to retrieve your cash.
February 9, 2016 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #1136952screwdriverdelightParticipantYou are all excellent at seeing trees. Now here’s a secret. If you climb up and look over them you will be able to see there is a forest.
Wow. I used to like you, Squeak.
February 9, 2016 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #1136953JosephParticipantCut him some slack. He’s gotten older.
February 9, 2016 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1136954mobicoParticipantI like to give a R’ Chaim al ha’Rambam or a Meshech Chochma.
February 9, 2016 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #1136955dovrosenbaumParticipantHow about Ve Ha’arev Na, or Chashukei Chemed by Rav Zilbershtein? These are easy to read maasiyos on the parsha that teach over a lot of halacha le ma’aseh
February 9, 2016 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #1136956squeakParticipantI never knew, so how am I now to properly feel the loss? I feel like a ger on his first tisha bav.
Let’s start over. Tell me how to make you like me again, and then I can repost my forest/trees comment so that you can stop liking me and make it count.
February 10, 2016 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1136957The QueenParticipantAsk the Bar Mitzvah boy what he wants, within a price range, this way you know your gift will be appropriate and appreciated. BTW I do this when buying a baby gift as well.
February 11, 2016 3:37 am at 3:37 am #1136958squeakParticipantAnd what do the babies usually tell you they’d like to get?
February 11, 2016 4:31 am at 4:31 am #1136959☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAnd what do the babies usually tell you they’d like to get?
A set of R’ Shimons.
February 11, 2016 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #1136961The QueenParticipantThe babies need to grow up and have a baby before they get asked.
February 11, 2016 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1136962screwdriverdelightParticipantyou’re getting there, squeak. A few more posts like these
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/bar-mitzvah-seforim-gift-ideas#post-599814
and you’ll get it.
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