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Does Otzar Hachochma have more kedushah than Hebrewbooks? Does it look like a website designed in 1999?
Hey, hey, I designed a couple of web pages in the 1990s, do not touch that kedusha! Ironically, one Rebbetzin did not agree to post a photo of her family, whether for tzniyus or ayn hara ideas, so we had just the rav’s photo …. ironically – given how many photos are streamed now everywhere
I didn’t read everything in this thread, but I will say this:
While I constantly use Sefaria as it is a very useful Torah tool — it is clearly run by Reform elements, and if I would find an alternative I would gladly switch.
For example: The default translation for Tanach is the Reform “Contemporary Torah: A Gender-Sensitive Adaptation of the JPS Translation”
After you log in with your username, if you select a text, then on the right “translations” gives you a list of translations for this posuk. After you click on “select” on another translation, that became a default translation for all other books of Tanach
I also did not see much difference between JPS 2023 and JPS 1985 in several pesukim I looked at, none of them refer to Hashem as they/them.
Hm, I usually use it for Gemora and related texts and did not see anything like that … Mine default translation for tanach shows as “revised JPS 2023”. Obviously, a recent addition.
And in another option to download data, there are many options, include the one you mention gender-sensitive JPS along many respected ones. Is “revised JPS 2023” the gendered one? If you are right, this is unfortunate. Possibly they simply default to JPS and then take latest, and it is more on JPS for going that route? Or maybe, they indeed went to increase their market share …
“Or maybe, they indeed went to increase their market share …”
Yeah… I’m sure there’s a huuuuuuge market for pro-trans people wanting to learn Tanach…
Neville, we are all very comfortable talking to each other, while so many Jews with weird views are out there. There are lots of non-O publications and authors who write something Jewish-related.
The OP found his result by doing a Google search, not a search on Sefaria itself. A search on Sefaria using his query won’t give you any results. You actually have to goto that Perek, click on the Possuk, then go search for the right internet link or source page under the correct institution.
However, I was able to duplicate it by using his exact query in Google. It was the top result. However, I will qualify that the result ultimately links back to Mechon Hadar, which isn’t frum (by that I mean Yeshivish or even RWMO, but probably OO), but not necessarily non orthodox in the Reform or Conservative sense.
I do wonder why the OP felt it necessary to go throw an epic hissy fit on this website, rather than just go back what he’s supposed to be doing as a “Bochur”: learning Torah – and obviously forgetting he came across it.
My point is that it is clearly not orthodox (an orthodox organization would not ch”v platform reform literature).
I agree that it’s definitely full of orthodox content which is why I use it all the time.
“Neville, we are all very comfortable talking to each other, while so many Jews with weird views are out there. There are lots of non-O publications and authors who write something Jewish-related.”
You might be fine reading their stuff, but they are more dogmatic in their liberalism than we are in our Orthodoxy. They have no interest in actually reading real sources that aren’t altered to fit their freak beliefs unless they’re doing so just to poke fun.
I think sefaria is run by computer professionals, trying to create useful products. I still think that core texts and commentaries are kosher, while additional sites like sheets are created by users and are not supervised. As Menachem pointed that default Tanach translation is a little OTD, this means one needs to define the version you want.
I wish there was a cleaner delineation. Say, different site for the unauthoritative materials.
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