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January 1, 2012 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #601439Yoni the yogiMember
I would like to know more informations about those bans and what people think about it
January 1, 2012 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #841062ShrekParticipantMishpacha was banned? Fine, so I’ll read Newsweek.
January 1, 2012 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #841063WolfishMusingsParticipantI do not observe bans unless told to me directly by the person making the ban.
The Wolf
January 1, 2012 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #841064Ctrl Alt DelParticipantI personally like Ban. Its a great product. Helps you feel fresh all day long. (wink)
January 1, 2012 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #841065oomisParticipantSeriously? I don’t believe it.
January 1, 2012 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #841066Yoni the yogiMemberI have the same approach than you Mrs The wolf. I’m just curious about life and about human beings. I don’t read any of those publication becaise I don’t like propaganda. Nobody has totell me how to think. But I appreciate a nice open discussion based on truth and respect.
January 1, 2012 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #841067WolfishMusingsParticipantMrs The wolf
Do you know something about me that I don’t know?
The Wolf (who is most definitely a Mr. Wolf and NOT a Mrs. Wolf)
January 1, 2012 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #841068Ctrl Alt DelParticipantI am pretty sure that the Wolf is a Wolf, and not a Wolfette
January 1, 2012 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #841069Yoni the yogiMemberSorry MR THE WOLF, I got an argument between my fingers. Lol. I hope you forgive me. No bad intention at all.
January 1, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #841070WolfishMusingsParticipantSorry MR THE WOLF, I got an argument between my fingers. Lol. I hope you forgive me. No bad intention at all.
No need to apologize. I wasn’t offended, merely amused.
The Wolf
January 2, 2012 1:03 am at 1:03 am #841073Yoni the yogiMemberThank mr the wolf.
January 2, 2012 2:26 am at 2:26 am #841074The Horse’s MouthMemberAt the very least, the ban serves notice to the target (Mishpacha in this case) that they are off the Jewish beaten track, according to the leaders of Torah Judaism, and they will face consequences as such. It usually will result in the target shaping up somewhat to avoid facing more such denounciations.
January 2, 2012 5:32 am at 5:32 am #841075oomisParticipantI read Mishpacha, and I would love to know where they are off the Jewish track.
January 2, 2012 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #841076mytakeMemberBanned by whom?
January 2, 2012 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #841077WolfishMusingsParticipant(Mishpacha in this case) that they are off the Jewish beaten track, according to the leaders of Torah Judaism
Why should they observe the ban? I don’t observe it.
The Wolf
January 2, 2012 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #841078soliekMemberlol mishpacha is banned but ami isnt…i find that amusing. not because i think either is worthy of being banned, but because ami is a bit more left than mishpacha
January 2, 2012 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #841079apushatayidParticipantJust curious. Who supposedly banned mishpacha?
January 2, 2012 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #841080aries2756ParticipantI am for banning all bans and promoting bands instead!
January 2, 2012 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #841081Avi KParticipantI think that they are talking about a newspaper of the same name – especially as the YWN article said that the background is a dispute with Yated.
January 2, 2012 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #841082Yoni the yogiMemberTo apushatayid
Harav Elyashiv Shlit”a
January 2, 2012 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #841083apushatayidParticipantInteresting.
January 2, 2012 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #841085wanderingchanaParticipantAries, you beat me to it!
Ban the Bans…
January 2, 2012 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #841086soliekMemberbtw just out of curiosity what is this supposed feud between yated and mishpacha about?
January 2, 2012 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #841087Yoni the yogiMemberIn Williamsburg Brooklyn NY, they banned Mishpacha, Hamodia and .Bina
I’m reading tv iran an iranian newspaper in english, very kosher and sometimes funny. Fed up with orthodox politics.
About band, jazz band?
January 2, 2012 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #841088☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t think they’re talking about the English language Mishpacha.
January 2, 2012 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #841089☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am for banning all bans
Including that one? 🙂
January 2, 2012 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #841090oomisParticipantI am still confused. What caused the ban l’chatchilah? I have never seen anything offensive in Mishpacha.
January 2, 2012 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #841091☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantoomis,
Do you read the Hebrew Mishpacha?
January 2, 2012 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #841092The Horse’s MouthMemberThe Israeli Mishpacha newspaper and magazine and the American magazine all share the same ownership and much editorial content.
January 2, 2012 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #841093ZeesKiteParticipantActually people read Mishpacha on the ban.
January 2, 2012 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #841094YW Moderator-42ModeratorNow let’s see if anybody can back up The Horses Mouth. And even if he is correct, it could be that R’ Elyashiv only banned the Hebrew Newspaper (if he ever actually issued any ban at all)
January 3, 2012 12:10 am at 12:10 am #841095golden momMemberi did hear people strongly suggest not reading the bina (which i understand) but hamodia and mishpacha??? i dont understand!
January 3, 2012 12:13 am at 12:13 am #841096apushatayidParticipantRav Elyashic Shlita found content in the Mishpacha that he didn’t like or found objectionable? I highly doubt he ever read a single word of the publication. How did he find objectionable content?
January 3, 2012 12:20 am at 12:20 am #841097zahavasdadParticipantThat is the real problem with these bans
Stuff is banned that is not read.
The book Making of a godol was banned by gedolim who do not speak or read english
January 3, 2012 12:25 am at 12:25 am #841098MaidofCHParticipantProbably MISHPACHA is too much reality for them. They can’t deal with either the outside world or certain internal issues.
January 3, 2012 1:08 am at 1:08 am #841099The Horse’s MouthMemberYou can trust Rav Elyashev. He doesn’t issue a proclamation lightly. When he does he knows what he is dealing with a lot better than any of us.
January 3, 2012 1:20 am at 1:20 am #841100apushatayidParticipantIts not Rav Elyashiv we don’t trust. Just those who claim to speak in his name.
January 3, 2012 1:28 am at 1:28 am #841101The Horse’s MouthMemberAccording to yesterday’s story on the front page of Yeshiva World, Rav Elyashev personally signed a public letter calling for the ban.
January 3, 2012 6:14 am at 6:14 am #841102aries2756ParticipantMishpacha is very important, it is the foundation for all Jews, without Mishpacha what would happen to our children? I refuse to ban families!!!! I don’t care who says so.
On a serious note. I have not as yet heard that R’ Eliyashav is feeling better or is at a point where people are telling him what is going on around him. How can any of us believe that he is saying any of what is being in written in his name?
January 3, 2012 6:35 am at 6:35 am #841103Yoni the yogiMemberFrom what I read recently, the letter was published on the hebrew Yated Neeman and the last information, it seems that is a fake. I’m not surprised.
January 3, 2012 6:48 am at 6:48 am #841104WIYMemberFor these and similar bans (as well as raybans talibans turbans and all other bans) to be taken seriously it would be beneficial to quote precisely what was found to be a problem with these publications. They should reference a specific article and explain the problem with it. Otherwise we are inclined to think the ban is based on politics and the “handlers” were able to convince the Rav that its necessary to ban the publication.
January 3, 2012 6:50 am at 6:50 am #841105WIYMemberYoni
You seriously mean that it has been confirmed that a party went ahead and faked Rav Elyashivs signature?!!! Can you give me some more info????
January 3, 2012 7:36 am at 7:36 am #841106Yoni the yogiMemberTo WIY
I read it on another site. I know this guy has an agenda, but usually he’s pretty well informed.
January 3, 2012 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #841107oomisParticipantDo you read the Hebrew Mishpacha”
No, do you? Is it not supposed to be that what we get here is the English translation?
January 3, 2012 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #841108WIYMemberYoni
I know which site you mean. I don’t read his site its too disgusting. I will wait for others to pick up on the story first before allowing myself to get upset about this.
January 3, 2012 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #841109apushatayidParticipantSo, what was so objectionable in a frum publication, that supposedly is backed by rabbonim that the paper had to be taken to rav elyashiv shlita and not the rabbonim who advise the paper?
January 3, 2012 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #841110mytakeMembergolden mom
“i did hear people strongly suggest not reading the bina (which i understand)”
What exactly is objectionable about the Bina? Just curious, because I read it here and there and never found a problem.
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