Bahamas Vacation advice

Joseph…………..

Private home with private beach on one of the small privately owned out islands will avoid that problem.

NOT CHEAP, but it can be done.

ZD, people aren’t going to the Bahamas to go to the Beis Medrash, I assure you. I’m skeptical the Bahamas even has a Beis Medrash.

Of course there is a Beis Medrash in the bahamas, its run by Rav Sholom Bluming (You can google him…He is real)

So your “proof” that there is pritzus in the bahamas (or vegas) is that ‘everybody knows it’ ?

There is a Kollel in Las Vegas, Any city with a Kollel must have some Kedush to it. I think its associated with Chofetz Chaim, but Im not 100% sure

The Kollel in Las Vegas is miles away from the strip, which is the part of town that is infamous. It is probably a 15- 20 minutes drive without traffic.

Its obvious you are an expert on las Vegas, next time I go Ill remember to take your advice and allow 15-20 mins to drive to the kollel

Alright, I have to say, I almost agree with Joseph on this one from Halachas standpoint. There really is no reason to go to the Bahamas except A) a public or hotel beach, or B) gambling.

As CT lawyer points out, there are expensive ways to do it on the private islands (ie eleuthera) to simply have a pretty beach without the public, but the original poster was asking for a bargain, and the bargains involve A or B above and somewhere in Nassau or Paradise Island.

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From my recollection, Halacha and the gemamra frowns on gambling either considering it stealing (though not all do), or that it is immoral anyway because the loser did not expect to lose, or its just not what a jew should be doing.

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Frankly, it is hard for me to see the difference between the stock market and a skilled game in the casino.

Anyway, joseph, I concede, almost all authorities are not happy with the idea of gambling, but you could apply much of what they say to the stock market or any investment.

Why do you want to go there? It is going to be hard for the frum Jew sgetting kosher food finding a minyan and even learning Torah. Miami is a more Kosher place, although there too there is pritzus and crime in both places.

Besides Zaika and crime if you venture outside the tourist areas there are also hurricanes which will ruin your vacation this time of year. If you can wait until the first hurricane hits you can probably find a good deal.

The comments about the issue with going to the Bahamas were not in relation to there being a minyan there or a kosher restaurant. It was a comment about vacationing in a plan that is ??? ?????? ????.

There being a Kollel in Las Vegas, which is nowhere near the strip, does not kasher up the strip.

As far as the shul closer to the strip, I have heard that it really does not have regular minyanim. The Chabad, which apparently has a whole complex, does have regular minyanim, but is also quite removed from the strip.

People arent going to the Bahamas for the Culture there. People do go to las vegas for business as there are many trade shows there especially the CES where alot of frum people go

lesheimshamayim -“I would like to go to the bahamas and am searching around for good websites to find vacation deals (airfare+hotel). Any suggestions?”

Try CheapOair.

A lot of deals.

I was in the Bahamas for a brief stay earlier this year yes of course if you go to the beaches there will be pritzus but there is much culture to see and enjoy and fun activities that do not involve the beach.

Eeees and I went to St. Thomas (and St. John) a number of years ago. The people on the island dress fairly conservatively away from the beaches (certainly no worse than you would find in any major metropolitan city on the mainland). We had a great time and brought our own meat (other kosher staples were available there). As for swimming, we had our own private pool, so going to the beaches was not a concern for us.

The Wolf

@lesheim To the extent my post can be read as advising you not to go or giving you advice you did not ask for, I apologize. As with most things in the CR, the responses tend to veer far from the posts.

That said, I was once in my 20s also so no judgment, but if you did not know there was gambling in the Bahamas, you should (at least) google before you go to decide if you actually want to go.

The problem with the Bahamas is that the nice areas are not a bargain, and the ones that are, you have to carefully investigate their safety etc… Leaving halacha out of it, there are some spots anyone from the US (much less a female) would be wise not to go. This is true of many places, though you are generally (though of course, not always) safer in the US.

Anyway, as someone who lives 200 miles from Nassau, and does go there from time to time when I want a short vacation close by, I am not telling you not to go, but investigate before you do. If I had information on the bargain places I would tell you, but I really do not.

Lesheim: I loved your brochos at the end of your post!!!!!