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“Their bodies may be keeping mitzvot but their minds are not thinking the way a Jew thinks.”
Charlie,
You dare impugn the minds of other Jews? You, who can do nothing but slavishly defend a failed political ideology? You, who considers Avi Weiss to be your spiritual adviser?
Worry about the Jewishness of your own mind.
He most certainly is a Neocon. He’s weak on immigration, a warmonger, he wants to oust the Assad regime, import millions of Muslim immigrants into the country, and wants to dismantle the culture of this country.
It’s one thing to “wrongly but legally” hire foreign workers (documented or not), quite another to then campaign about bringing jobs to americans.
dovrosenbaum: I don’t know who you are but you are just a pro-Drumpf plant and apologist.Donald Drumpf has lied so many times on so many subjects that he doesn’t know what the truth is anymore. Against illegal immigration!-yet, he employs illegal immigrants himself. Against China and Mexico, those dastardly nations who take away our jobs,yet, his own line of tacky ties and suits is manufactured in China ! He will make America great again, by bringing all those lost jobs back…Yet, he has four bankruptcies and numerous failed businesses , where the only person benefiting is Donald Drumpf,while thousands of little guys-that he claims to represent- lose their jobs and life savings..Give me a break-he is the biggest huckster yet!
Re Coffee Addict’s comment beginning, “Nfgo3,/Charlie didn’t make ….”
Please look carefully at my comment. Then look carefully at the comment by Charliehall that begins with a quote from another commenter. Do you understand the significance of the double-quotation mark followed by the single-quotation mark in my reference to the comment by Charliehall?
The YWN editors could make citations and references to comments easier if they would number them, as they do in the comments in the News section. Just a suggestion ….
Candidates evolve on issues all the time. What you do as a private citizen and a public official are two different things.
Here you go Charlie/nfgo. (From the christian post 2012.) Look at the wonderful people you support.
The Democratic National Convention has removed any reference to “God” from the party’s platform, or as some call it, the party’s 24,000-plus word mission statement. . . Delegates approved the final version of the platform Tuesday afternoon including language that supported TOEVAH marriage and almost unlimited abortion rights for women. . . . .Also absent in the DNC platform are the three references to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Lets all say it together now:
“MACHALA SHEAYN BO REFUAH”
Dovrosenbaum, Trump will keep us out of war?!? Except declaring one on Mexico to force them to pay for the wall. Or on China. Or on anybody else who’ll get on his nerves!
Dov, engaged in vulgarism?!? Funny to hear a complaint like this from the Trump(!!) camp! More speeches on substantive policies? He does not have any except for, maybe, declaring himself a furher of the Amerikaner folk.
Trump just came out with a great Seven-Point Health Care plan.
And there’s a big difference between bombing someone into oblivion and having a protracted war with boots on the ground. The neocons want Iraq part III. They want to bolster Libyan Al Qaeda and anti-Assad insurgents in Syria, just like they did in Iraq and Egypt. No more Arab Spring, no more New World Order. An A bomb on the Middle East may be the only recourse.
Re Homer’s post beginning “here you go …”: You seem to think that it is self-evident that the absence of “God” from the text of the Democratic party campaign platform of 2012 means that the Democratic party has some objections to G-d. You evidently do not understand that in a pluralistic democracy which guarantees freedom of religion in its constitution, religion and G-d are left to the people to glorify (or whatever else they want to do with G-d) as individual citizens determine. As Jews, we should be particularly gratified that our government is not authorized to support religion, as we should know from our history that when governments support religions, the Jewish one rarely gets a fair share.
As for toivah marriage, it’s optional for those who want it. I don’t understand it, you don’t understand it, Torah forbids it, but government should not be picking our spouses for us. Marriage is a religious institution, in which governments have long kibbitzed. Stick to your religion, and if the government respects all religions, as our government should and mostly does, toivah marriage is not a governmental issue for us Jews.
As for the capital of Israel, I see no problem with not putting a thumb in the eye of Palestine supporters by referencing the issue in a party platform. Party platforms should be set forth reasonable goals and should not be wish lists (and as soon as elections are over, they are waste paper). Democratic presidents have been unqualified supporters of the State of Israel since its founding, and the siting of its capital should be worked out if and when the Palestinians sit down and negotiate for their own future with Israel.
nfgo3: Your last contemptible comment on your beliefs about marriage clearly indicates you believe that polygamy should be legal. So why do you not say as much or otherwise admit to your hypocrisy?
Why shouldn’t polygamy be legal?
Polygamy is irrelevant.
Nfgo3, you are very wrong. Rambam writes that we have an obligation to force the nations to follow the 7 mitzvos of Bnei Noach. Nowadays we can’t do it militarily, but we need to try to do what we can by other means. I am talking about the toeiva marriage. Plus, it can bad repercussions for the Jewish community to allow the immorality to flourish.
Trump won one closed caucus and the only primary of the night…Cruz won two caucuses. For a candidate like Trump who is not far right the caucus is the toughest thing to win… Romney did not win most of them in 2012.
And yes, I agree with mdd. The Rebbe certainly held that way.
Mdd -“Dovrosenbaum, Trump will keep us out of war?!? Except declaring one on Mexico to force them to pay for the wall. Or on China. Or on anybody else who’ll get on his nerves”
First of all, why do you keep posting Trump will start a war?
Do you think that he doesn’t care about Americans? Don’t you think that if he starts a war with a nuke country, that they will nuke us back?!?
I’ll tell you who doesn’t care about us – the DemonCrats!
How come they let in Terrorists? Did you hear about an attack in California?
The US Constitution has no reference toGod. And it allows idol worshipers and atheists to hold any public office, even President.
I strongly suspect that the vast majority of commenters on this site voted for a polytheist for President in 2012 — Mitt Romney. So I reject the criticism directed towards me here.
“Trump just came out with a great Seven-Point Health Care plan. “
Trump wants to have the federal government save $300 billion from its $80 billion dollar prescription drug program. The rest of his plan makes about as much sense. For example, he wants to have insurers sell across state lines. Well, my own health insurer is based in Indiana and my wife’s is in Minnesota. We live in New York. And he has no plan to help those millions of Americans who will lose their insurance as the result of his repeal of Obamacare other than to let them die in the streets.
“Rambam writes that we have an obligation to force the nations to follow the 7 mitzvos of Bnei Noach.”
This would require repealing the First Amendment to the US Constitution along with similar provisions in every state Constitution.
It would require reinstating the sodomy laws, which would require yet another amendment to the US Constitution reversing the doctrine of substantive due process.
It would require changes to death penalty prosecutions to require
eyewitness testimony.
It might, depending on which posek you hold by, require the banning of Christianity as being a form of idol worship. (Islam, however, would be permitted.)
Charliehall: What do you gain by hiding the truth? Diff Types of insurance plans and rates are available depending on which state you live in. I know there are plans with benefits available in NJ that one cannot buy in NY from the same carrier.
Anyone who has been awake for the past few years and was actively involved with buying health insurance knows that Obamacare put millions of uninsured onto Medicaid, removed a lot of important benefits from active plans (or got rid of the plans entirely), and raised premiums so high that if you did the math it almost doesn’t even make sense for healthy people to own health insurance.
I don’t know about trump’s plan. I hope it will not be relevant. If people would actually vote with their minds instead of blindly doing as their told we might not be repeatedly cheated.
And so what, Charliehall? Like I wrote we have to what we possibly can. Saying let them do whatever…, it is non of our business is wrong.
Also, Charliehall, Christianity is not forbidden to Goyim according to the psak of Ramo.
The Democrats claim that all they want is the government to stay out o religion yet that is clearly not the case.
The Jewish religion has two crucial laws one is called Lifnei Eiver and the other is Misayeah.
If I own a catering company, wedding venue, bakery, or any facility that provides goods or services that play an integral role in a wedding ceremony and am asked to provide said good’s or services to facilitate a toeivah marriage ceremony then by any definition I am entering a Halachic problem of either Lifnei Eiver or at the very least Misayeah.
And yes I may be required to give up my livelihood rather then violate the Torah.
That is a fact.
Yet the Democrat position is that freedom of religion does not protect my right to operate my business in accord with my sincerely held religious beliefs.
And if I would like to continue to be in business I must violate said beliefs.
In other words right now, right here in the present day and age.
It is the Democrats and the Democrats exclusively who as a party overwhelmingly support a position that is not just ani-torah it poses a real and present danger to anyone who wishes to keep the Torah and remain with a livelihood.
I know of no Republican position that is the same.
Hence I believe anyone who votes Democrat may be a Jew in body but not is spirit.
Ben Levi -“The Democrats claim that all they want is the government to stay out o religion yet that is clearly not the case”
That’s not half of it! The government has supposedly created laws against discrimination, which includes discrimination against Shabbos observers. The reality is they use these laws for protecting low-lifes, but when it comes to Frum discrimination, it’s very widespread! The courts have watered it down to make it non-existent, no matter what they claim!
The Democrats have made war on religious freedom a hallmark of their reign of terror under Obama. Religious liberty has come under attack more in 8 years than ever before. Free speech is under attack on college campuses and on the streets; we’re at the point of denying people their 1st Amendment rights, so as to not “offend” others.
Our preoccupation with trigger warnings, microaggressions, safe spaces, mansplaining, and all the other doublespeak nonsense from the left is going to make us even bigger losers. We’re an emasculated society, thanks to the obsession over race, sexism, feminism, etc.
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