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Which candidate would you vote for and why
Super Tuesday is tomorrow
Rubio.
He is the strongest candidate to beat Clinton. He is the strongest candidate to beat Trump. And he is conservative.
That being said, as a matter of reality it appears almost a certainty that Trump will be nominated. The only way to stop that without a floor fight in a brokered convention is if every non-Trump candidate drops out immediately after the March 1 primaries, save for one candidate. That one logically would have to be Rubio, though it theoretically could be another. But it won’t happen since the others, especially Kasich, are egocentric self-centered who will put their own personal ambitions, despite having almost no chance of winning, ahead of country and party.
And since a Trump nomination virtually guarantees a Clinton victory, in 11 months from now Hillary will be President.
Rubio will not win 1 state. Cruz will at least get Texas.
The only way to beat Trump, join together on 1 ticket Cruz/Rubio or Rubio/Cruz. It will still be close but I think they would win. I doubt it would ever happen though.
The Abishter feert the Velt!!
I like Rubio at the moment but if Trump wins the nomination i’ll vote for him over Clinton.
It’s all over, folks. Clinton is your next president.
Rubio is a kvetchy lightweight who can’t get a word out without sounding like he’s nagging at his grade school teacher. Whether it’s lobbing taunts or trying to talk over other people, he always sounds like a weakling trying his bestest to fit in with the leaders. He certainly doesn’t seem like someone who could win an election against any strong candidate.
I’ve yet to hear him answer a question. He takes the political sport of obfuscating too far and makes it a strategy for 100% of his responses. He has no substance, and only now his candidacy finally gets a purpose – by self defining as the anti trump. No thanks.
With all due respect let us not forget the most important thing.
Let’s not forget who really runs the world. Hashem. Lev Melachim byad Hashem….
When we write like this coffeeroom we all sound like whoever wins runs the world.
Put your trust in Hashem alone and not others…. For one who trusts Hashem lacks nothing (tehillim 34)
Let’s hope the best one we all hope for wins president
Rubio’s campaign may be based only on the fact that he is not Donald Trump, but that’s pretty important.
Don’t worry, RY23. squeak is only coming out against Rubio because he saw me throw my weight behind the candidacy. He certainly does not support any other candidate that has any realistic odds of winning. 🙂
I am supporting Cruz because of his traditional values and strong support for Israel. Rubio is also good and according to the polls has a better chance to beat Clinton, who will most likely be the Democratic candidate. If I were Rubio I would make a deal with Cruz to nominate him for an important judicial post. Given his legal acumen this makes eminent sense and with his youth he would have an impact for the next two generations.
Joe – you saw right through me. Nevertheless, that is still my impression of him from watching his debate performances.
I will be voting for trump because I believe he cares about america
I have never felt less inclined to vote. There is comfort in knowing that we survived 8 years of Obama. So if Trump or Hillary win, we’ll grit and bear it.
Accepting that the field consists solely of Trump, Rubio and Cruz, Rubio has the best change of uniting the party and winning the general election (avoiding a Sanders or Clinton presidency). Winning an election means holding on to Republicans and winning independent and Democratic voters, and Rubio is in the best position to do that. Rubio started out as a “Tea Party favorite” defeating the establishment Republicans in Florida, though hard core nativists will oppose anyone who isn’t a pure blood WASP with roots in the 17th century.
The caveat is that Trump can back down on many of his positions that help in the primaries but not in the general election (e.g. nativism, which as it is sounds weirding coming from someone whose ancestors came through Ellis Island and who is married to an immigrant). While Trump’s views on most issues clearly qualify him as a “RINO” (a.k.a. a Rockefeller or Eisenhower type Republican), conservatives will see him as the lesser of two evils when running against. Trump is running on “anger” rather than platform, so he can adjust his platform to have broader appeal, but unless he does so he is very unlikely to win the election – meaning we could get a vehemently anti-religious socialists as president.
Trump is a liar and shifts his positions when it suits him. He doesn’t care America; he cares about Trump. His first response to any criticism is to bash the critic in the most juvenile way. Rubio is not going to win any states, and he has taken to Trump-like insults. He is dishonest about what he believes. Cruz is the only one I would vote for. If Hillary or Trump wins, well, America gets what it deserves for supporting either of them, neither the epitome of what made America great.
This is name is already taken, ans so what?!? Is he level-headed, reasonable predictable? Or he is a dangerous WILD CARD? Queen, same questions to you.
I’m a loss at what to do. Rubio will turn into another George Bush establishment Republican and Trump is a little looney. I believe Cruz will be declared ineligible to be President due to his Canadian birth.
Mythoughts: I don’t think you need to be concerned about that. The law is pretty clear on this and only troublemakers are filing lawsuits about this.
“Who says, maybe the 8 years of Obama mortally wounded us and trump or Hillary will be the death blow”
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I’m voting for Trump. I don’t think Cruz will make it in the long run, otherwise, I’d vote for him. Immigration and trade policy are very important to me. Trump is a nationalist, and we need candidates that are pro-America and pro-American above all.
I wish Israel well, but am not a Tzioni, so I’m not so caught up in that. Although I have no doubts Trump will be good for Israel just the same.
Rubio is an awful candidate and very corrupt.
Dov: Protectionism hurts America. America benefits from free trade.
Coffee:
1) I do vote. I consider it a civic duty. I also register my children to vote when they turn 18. We actually make a mini family trip out of it. Saying not inclined to vote doesn’t translate necessarily into not voting.
2) Sorry I can’t comment on what Hashem wants to do regarding America, I am not a secretary upstairs, I didn’t received the memo.
We’ve lost from every free trade agreement, and we’re going to be raked over the coals by TPP.
NAFTA and CAFTA are engineered by the insiders to bring illegals to America from Mexico and Central America all as steps towards the creation of a North American Union.
We’ve actually won from virtually every free trade agreement, both before and since NAFTA.
Trump is an transnational businessman whose parnasssah would be seriously hurt if there were trade restrictions. His protections may be part of his media “persona”. Of course, all of Trump’s positions seem to be part of a media image. For good or ill, one shouldn’t attach much faith (dispair) to Trump’s positions on specific issues since he’s running on a platform of “I’m angry and plan to do something about it”, with the “it” being left open. Certainly based on his overall stances on issues, he’s a “Rockefeller” Republican with some neo-isolationism thrown in.
dovrosenbaum: why have you swallowed the Trump Kool-aid hook, line and sinker? Trump is a sociopathic liar. Just for a recent example, he claimed a faulty earpiece made him not hear the question about David Dukes, yet he repeated David Dukes in his answer. He also in the past has commented about him. Trump will be no better than Obama. Then he wants to change the libel laws to make it easier to sue newspapers. He has no power to do that. He is prust and insulting and neutral on the Israel. Want Trump? Good luck with that.
Trump. Cruz and Rubio just seem too much like politicians, and while he is a huuuuuge baal Gaavah, for a Presidential candidate that is a good thing
We need prust and chutzpah, not someone who will let us get stepped on.
We don’t need someone who will step on us.
dovrosenbaum: Mister Drumpf-his real name- is a racist and a fascist and maybe even a cryptoNazi.He declines to condemn the KKK, his brownshirts kick out number of black Americans-who were just sitting quietly- from one of his meetings, he declares he will be “neutral’ between Israel and the terrorists, he loves every dictator-Putin, Hussein, Mussolini-and he wants to gut the First Amendment. And this is YOUR candidate??
ROB – do you take every piece of media coverage at face value? Gulp
” Protectionism hurts America. America benefits from free trade. “
Joseph is 100% correct on this.
I caught Bernie Sanders with a falsehood on his Facebook page a few months ago. He claimed that US exports to China did not increase after China gained Most Favored Nation status with the US. In fact, they increased by a factor of eight.
” do you take every piece of media coverage at face value? “
He doesn’t to look at ANY media coverage of Trump to know that he is evil. There are videos of him all over the internet — from his refusal to condemn David Duke to his spouting anti-Semitic memes before the Republican Jewish Coalition. From his praises of dictators to his threatening of any media outlet that dares to criticize him. I fully expect that should he be elected he will be coming after me.
I have said it before, I will say it again: Any Democrat who said these things would be roundly be condemned by everyone here and the condemnation would be deserved. Jews who support Trump may keep Shabat and kashrut, but they are every bit as assimilated as the Italian Jews who supported Mussolini and the German Jews who assumed that nothing would ever happen to them once Hitler yemach shemo came to power. Their bodies may be keeping mitzvot but their minds are not thinking the way a Jew thinks.
Get out of denial!!!
Is it time for Rubio to pack it in?
It’s time for all the non-Trumps, except one, to pack it in. That’s the only way they can beat Trump. But it ain’t gonna happen.
It’s time for all the non-Trumps, except one, to pack it in. That’s the only way they can beat Trump. But it ain’t gonna happen.
None of the primaries before March 15th are winner takes all. The best time for that to happen is closer to the 15th.
We’re now in the pre-March 15 cycle. If has to happen sufficiently before 3/15 for voters to consider who is left. Dropping out typically occurs immediately after the primaries before.
All the candidates repeated yesterday they’re staying in for the 3/15 primaries. For it to work only one non-Trump can be in 3/15. It isn’t going to happen. Trump will be the nominee. And Clinton will be the President.
Trump is now at 316 delegates, Cruz at 226, Rubio at 106.
The main concern I have is a brokered convention. Trump needs to win big if he wants to be the nominee. He needs to get over 50% in upcoming states in order to really reel in the delegates. Otherwise, the establishment will bamboozle him with the prospect of a Cruz/Rubio ticket.
Trump needs more big name endorsements, more substantive rhetoric and policies, and he needs to rally big time in states with high delegate counts. He didn’t campaign at all in Texas, Oklahoma, Alaska, or Minnesota. Texas would have been a wise choice for him to campaign heavily in. Oh well…
I am not a Republican, but permit me to make a few observations:
1. Charliehall’s comment beginning: ” ‘do you take every piece ….” As usual, Charliehall’s comment is right.
2. As Israel’s major and most reliable supporter in the world, the United States can advance Israel’s interest only through US economic and military strength. Misplaced wars, such the the Iraq invasion and the war in Afghanistan, weaken the US militarily AND economically, and that can seriously threaten Israel. The US should not support every bad idea that an Israeli government can pull out of its ear, such as aggressive settlements in the region that the world calls the “Occupied Territories”. Any policy that weakens the US economy, such as the Republican ideas of tax cuts for the rich and less government spending in a weak economy, compromises the US’s ability to be a helpful to Israel. Republican tough talk about support for Israel is worthless if the US is not strong economically and militarily.
3. It is important for the US to play a role in relieving the humanitarian disaster in Syria. Whether we take in 10,000 or 100,000 Syrian refugees, or provide economic aid to European countries who absorb these refugees, it is essential that the US play a constructive role. I see Syrian refugee children wearing the same backpacks as I see on the kids going to yeshivas in New York neighborhoods. We must recognize the humanity and make a positive contribution to this disaster. I have not heard any Republican say anything encouraging on this issue. (Democrats – both of them – have not to date focused on this issue either, but I expect the Democratic nominee to get it more right than any Republican candidate.)
4. Trump is running on his “brand” as a business genius who has lots and lots of money. His supporters say that is what they like about him. He therefore owes it to the public to disclose his tax returns and audited financial statements that support his claims to business expertise. He also owes his supporters an explanation of his bankruptcies. It is not enough to assure us that he did not go bankrupt, his casinos did. How did he manage those businesses into their financial ruin, and what assurance can he give US citizens that he can properly shepherd the fiscal policy of the federal government and the US economy. To date, all he’s told us is that he’s really, really rich and really, really great. And all Rubio has told us about Trump is that he has small hands. Has US political discourse sunk so low?
5. If Trump continues to perform strongly in the primaries, and the “Republican establishment” decides to improperly undermine his electoral success and deny him the Republican nomination, I am sure he will run as an independent. That will surely pave the way for the Democratic nominee. So, dear Republican brothers and sisters, be careful what you wish for.
Trump will keep us out of war. Rubio is a neocon warmonger, affiliated with the Project for a New American Century.
Sorry, you would have to listen to more than pop-media to hear the truth. Rubio has actually exposed a great deal about trumps flaws: he hired foreigners to build his towers in order to pay smaller wages, while campaigning about bringing jobs to americans. All of the clothing he makes is made in China or Mexico, also while promising jobs to americans He ran a fraudulent university for which he is now under judicial investigation, taking thousands in tuition and offering no degree or valid education. He said he would remain a neutral party in the Israel/Palestinian conflict. And he didn’t immediately repudiate the endorsement of david duke and his KKK, until pressured by the media. Enough?
Dov: Rubio is no neocon. He is more a Tea Party Conservative.
nfgo: By time the convention comes and passes it is too late to file for an independent presidential candidacy in many/most states. Additionally, states also have a “sore loser” law preventing a party primary candidate from running independently in the general election.
There is humorless irony in hearing Obama supporters and Hillary supporters labeling Trump as evil. Charlie and nfgo, you are practicing cognitive dissonance.
Hiring cheaper labor, as long as its legal, is what every smart businessman needs to do in order to compete. If you were in that business instead of in the armchair politics business you would do the same. Richard Bramson is building hotels in NYC now using cheap labor too. The issue is the same as using tax loopholes to reduce paying taxes. Warren Buffet says it all the time – its not the right thing but as long as its legal he is going to do it.
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