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June 13, 2011 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #776608ilovetheholylandParticipant
tikkun – i think that some of the things you listed such as a roof over your head, and a bed would be considered necessities rather than luxuries. (AC i could hear….ive lived without it in israel…it was EXTREMELY tough, but managable…)
as for the middos that you mentioned, its funny, but when i was in israel i found myself sort of adapting to the ‘sabra’ mentality – subconsiously. and i did find that for a young born and bred american girl, it affected me a little. the hard, tough exterior of the israelis masks the soft and gentle insides that they have. however, many times people dont get to see the soft side of israelis. its only in times of need and helping other people that the true colors show. so in my case, being a naive little girl, i only saw the outside in the beginning and that affected me negatively. b”h i bounced right back to my regular self once i realized what was occuring….
twisted – so true! thanx for bringing up that point. there are TREMENDOUS kiruv oppurtunites because the secular israelis make no secret of the fact that they are jewish. many of them are proud of it!
June 13, 2011 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #776609TikkunHatzotMembertikkun – i think that some of the things you listed such as a roof over your head, and a bed would be considered necessities rather than luxuries.
No, it’s not a neccessity…I have friends that lived in the old city for years without a roof & some don’t even have beds. If a roof & a bed were a necessity, I would be sleeping on the couch in the building’s basement.
Ummm Tikkun you don’t have a roof over your head in Israel? Even by E”Y standards, living in some sort of home or dwelling or abode is obviously a necessity and not a luxury. How do you get by? And how on earth do you survive without AC in that heat??
No, I don’t have a roof over my head.
On a normal night, I look at the Temple Mount lit up & listen to the people singing in the streets. Then I just lay back & stare at the stars for a few minutes while the breeze blows fresh, cool air onto my face. When I wake up, I thankfully think about how many people would have given anything to wake up staring out over Jerusalem. What part of this isn’t a luxury? On the next roof, tourists pay (& fight) to camp on it & it’s not even as nice as where I’m at.
As for AC, it’s not that big of a deal. I grew up in south Florida before most houses & cars had AC, so I’m used to a little heat.
June 13, 2011 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #776610ilovetheholylandParticipanttikkun – kuddos to you!
i once met a guy who lived in a cave in eretz yisrael. now he could say that he lives <IN> eretz yisrael……..
June 14, 2011 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #776611TikkunHatzotMemberI wanted to point out that MOST people here DO live in beds & under roofs (even the poorest of people). I wasn’t trying to scare anyone from moving here. Israel does have much in the way of Western Standards as well. It’s just some of us find it much cheaper/easier to get by without them.
@Ilovetheholyland. I actually have a few friends here that live/lived in caves in E”Y….and as a bonus, some of them actually look like cavemen too!
June 15, 2011 1:36 am at 1:36 am #776612ilovetheholylandParticipant“some of them actually look like cavemen”
this guy i met certainly looked like a caveman! hes a freaken genious also….a really interesting guy. maybe hes ur friend!
June 15, 2011 1:56 am at 1:56 am #776613LemonySnicketParticipantTikkun – How do you get by? You sleep every day outside? What do you eat?
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