Are Trees Gilgulim with Human Neshamos?

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  • March 31, 2016 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #617500
    newbee
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    I recently listened to a lecture from someone who says they are a Rabbi and in it he says that trees and animals can have human neshamos as gilgulim and people can even need exorcisms but with regard to exorcism the baal shem tov destroyed most of the demons in the world when he went into the mystical levels 300 years ago.

    Has anyone heard similar things?

    March 31, 2016 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #1215926
    golfer
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    Why do you listen to lectures from “someone who says they are a Rabbi”?

    Would you eat a chicken slaughtered by someone who says he’s a shochet?

    Or invest your money with someone who says he’s a banker (or a prince from Nigeria)?

    March 31, 2016 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #1215927
    newbee
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    golfer, every Rabbi says he or she is a Rabbi. As for doing research and investigation into the authenticity, quality and value of said claim, this depends on several factors. Listening to a shiur online requires less research and due diligence than hiring someone with a contract to be the rov of your community or investing your life savings with someone. Its more like asking random anonymous people on a website, such as yourself.

    I hope I was able to answer your well thought out and interesting question.

    April 1, 2016 12:04 am at 12:04 am #1215928
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Or invest your money with someone who says he’s… a prince from Nigeria?

    I don’t recommend that. I had a bad experience once…

    April 1, 2016 12:06 am at 12:06 am #1215929
    newbee
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    Is it possible that a username in the Coffee Room can be a gilgul of another username from an earlier time? If so, how is this possible because one user is only allowed to have one username? Can a computer be a gilgul of someone as well?

    April 1, 2016 12:12 am at 12:12 am #1215930
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I think some people think that means only one username per post.

    April 1, 2016 12:13 am at 12:13 am #1215931
    newbee
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    This Rabbi is somewhat unique btw as he not only teaches about gilgulim but says he even knows who gilgulim are.

    He says his daughter is the gilgul of his grandmother in the shiur.

    April 1, 2016 12:37 am at 12:37 am #1215932
    newbee
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    “I think some people think that means only one username per post.”

    lol

    April 1, 2016 1:25 am at 1:25 am #1215933
    Git Meshige
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    I was walking in the park the other day and I noticed the tree was smiling at me. So I smiled back. And it said ” Hi there, how are you doing”. Naturally I was freaked out. So I started backing away. To which the tree said” do not be afraid, I dont bite, I just have a bark”

    So the answer to your question is yes.

    April 1, 2016 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm #1215934
    newbee
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    I was walking to a mets game the other day and on my way there I noticed a tree with its stem torn out. I could sense its neshama was telling me something. Then I realized, mets spelled backwards is stem. The neshama of the tree was telling me not to go to this mets game surely. I didn’t go and sure enough at that game the mets came very close to not winning. It would have been very anxiety provoking if I had gone to the game in person.

    We see from this story that one should always listen to the neshamos of dead tree stems.

    April 3, 2016 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #1215935
    mik5
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    According to the sifrei kabala, reciting the bracha on fruit trees in the month of Nissan, is a big tikkun (spiritual repair) for those neshamos that are hovering between the two worlds as gilgulim (reincarnated souls) in the barks of trees, and it is important when saying this bracha to have in mind to bring heavenly mercy upon these hovering souls to allow them to be freed from their pain by enabling them to return to their place in olam haba (see shu”T teshuvos v’hanhagos vol. 1 end of siman 191 and kaf hachaim 226:8. See kaf hachaim 226:4 that this bracha should not be made on Shabbos, as doing so will be “Borer”, separating the “Sparks of kedusha” of the neshamos from the trees!)

    April 7, 2016 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #1215936
    NeutiquamErro
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    Perhaps what was said in this lecture has some basis, I don’t know, but from the way you describe it, it sounds incredibly suspect.

    April 7, 2016 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1215937
    newbee
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    “but from the way you describe it, it sounds incredibly suspect.”

    He also said at one point in his life he medically died and went to shamayim where he was judged by the angels and saw all sorts of things about what happens after you die and was sent back into his body to become frum.

    April 7, 2016 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #1215938
    NeutiquamErro
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    As I said, incredibly suspect. The part about his daughter in concerning, to say the least. Still, what do I know?

    April 8, 2016 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1215939
    Sam2
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    I once met a tree that threw apples at me.

    February 13, 2017 4:27 am at 4:27 am #1215940
    Lightbrite
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    10mo thread

    Bump. I have heard that trees can have a human neshama if the human had a demoted gilgul.

    February 13, 2017 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1215942
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    “Or invest your money with someone who says he’s… a prince from Nigeria?”

    Daas Yochid: “I don’t recommend that. I had a bad experience once…”

    lol. literally.

    February 13, 2017 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #1215943
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Daas Yochid: “I think some people think that means only one username per post.”

    And here I always thought it was one username per thread. Lesschumras is right – it’s not kidai to be extra machmir.

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