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October 10, 2013 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #610844Not AMember
Please post all housing cost rants, comments and suggestions etc
October 10, 2013 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #978652zahavasdadParticipantMove Kehilas to other communities where its cheaper like Upstate NY or Pennsylvania
October 10, 2013 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #978653ChanieEParticipantRedefine Jewish community. You need enough Jews for a comfortable minyan, not a minyan on every block. My kids will probably end up out of town because housing expenses here are crazy.
October 10, 2013 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #978654Leah222MemberOUTSKIRTS OF LKWD ARE CHEAPER.. U CAN GET NICE HOUSE FOR UNDER $300K
October 10, 2013 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #978655akupermaParticipantLeave the New York Metropolitan Area.
In Baltimore, you can be find blocks with a half dozen frum shuls within walking distance and a block that is at least 25% frum – and a semi-detached house for $100K.
New York has a problem since it is government policy to have high housing costs. Few other cities have such dumbness.
October 10, 2013 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #978656zahavasdadParticipantYou can buy a house in Upstate NY or Scranton, PA for $100,000
October 10, 2013 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #978657Chaim37ParticipantAs zahavasdad already said one option is upstate NY. I live in Woodridge NY year round and commute to NYC daily. I am home by 6:30PM. Yes I do get up pretty early (4:25am) in the morning to start my day. I telecommute on Friday’s and erev’s of Yom Tovim. Door to door from Woodridge to Port Authority is 1 hour and 55 minutes. What I wrote above has already been publicized over this past summer in papers like the Catskills Jewish Voice and the Hamodia.
Housing costs anywhere from low 100’s to upper 100’s. If you want a really nice house with a pool 200-250. You can find fix me uppers for below 100K.
Tuition is affordable to. My kids are in the torah umseroah affiliated day school. It will depend on circumstance.
With everything there is pros and cons. It’s not for everyone but certainly for some people this can work.
October 10, 2013 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #978658fed ben fedMemberHousing prices are a function of supply and demand. Frum people like living with other frum people with proximity to shuls schools and access to kosher food (etc..).
Moving a whole kehila would provide an initial benefit to the pioneers, but with the arrival of more families, we would just recreate the supply/demand issue and drive up the prices.
Also please keep family money out of the fruminomics. When Yankle brings a large downpayment from Tatty (increasing demand), he is artificially floating the high prices. Meaning; if no one could afford a 500k house then the prices would normalize around the real purchasing power of the family (250k?)
To get a good deal:
1. Move OOT
2. Be a pioneer and move a little farther out from the core area
October 10, 2013 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #978659rebdonielMemberWhen I settle down, I’ll be looking at OOT communities within 3 hours driving distance of NYC. My rationale is that this would enable me to partake of the amenities without the high costs.
Scranton and Allentown are good examples of this. Both places are about 3 hours from NYC, yet I know people living in these communities who drive into the city for shopping and dining every week.
October 10, 2013 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #978660flyerParticipantakuperma- my sister is desperately looking for a house in Baltimore and has yet to find anything. they are either over 300 or on a block with no jews. If you know of any houses for that price with kids on the block please tell me where.
October 10, 2013 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #978661fed ben fedMember@flyer, your right.
as a Bmore resident, housing here is very tough if you want to be in the younger areas. (Ranchleigh,Pickwick,Beazer etc…)
Also houses sell within hours of listing, often never reaching the market. you really need to have a good realtor.
October 10, 2013 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #978662dimyonMemberHi Chaim37,
You probably remember me. I had a meal in your home this past Shemini Atzeres, and I’m pretty convinced into making the move. Thanks so much for inviting us. Woodridge is a beautiful community and I think the benefits are well worth the trip. I see no rationale for spending literally triple the housing costs for a cramped space in Brooklyn.
October 10, 2013 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #978663akupermaParticipantflyer: Stick to areas near Park Heights Avenue (local shuls include Glen Avenue (German), Agudah (Litvish), Sternhell’s and Taub’s (Hasidic), Goldberger (modern Hasidische) not to mention many others). Avoid anywhere in the county unless you want to pay for the privilege of sending your kids to good public schools. There are plenty of young families with little kids near the main shuls which are all near Park Heights Avenue and clearly within the city limits. While the city has a higher tax rate, it has lower assessments meaning the taxes are similar in city and county. A semi-detached will be around $100K (more if it is brand new) but most of the housing is mid-20th century, though there are still some brand new overpriced homes available. You are a short drive to both the Baltimore subway and light rail, and about 15 minutes from a MARC (which is the commuter train to Washington). Some people also commute to Wilmington. If you are more “modern” there are also many zionist shuls and one zionist school (Beth Tefilah) in the city. Remember that DC (Silver Springs) and Baltimore are in a relationship similar to Brooklyn and Manhattan – they are a single metropolitan area regardless of the political boundaries.
October 10, 2013 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #978664Chaim37Participantdimyon, I certainly do remember. Thanks for the kind words.
October 10, 2013 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm #978665funnyboneParticipantSection 8 raises the demand for housing. The more people who can afford to live in Brooklyn, the higher the cost is (laws of supply and demand). I think that if we get rid of Section 8, or better yet, limit it to areas of new growth opportunities, the price of housing in NYC would fall.
October 14, 2013 11:49 am at 11:49 am #978666ED IT ORParticipantsorry for waiting so long, im not just trolling.
im not in the ousing parsha yet im just interested in an all round view on what can be done about it.
fed ben fed, that actually makes sense but its only really temporary as soon the outskirts will be also the main and on and on.
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