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Ahsreinu – yup, R’Shafier is #1 lecturer on my MP3 player! I’ve already made myself a mileage goal to accomplish this winter and then I’ll take some running outdoors. Till then, the boring treadmill.
asdfghjkl – I have no idea how fast you run, etc, but if you’re running at an easy pace, just off the top of my head, lets say 11-12 minute miles, then 90 minutes of running = about 7-8 miles, give or take.
BTW, I read once that increasing stamina from 0 to 3 miles is much harder than increasing from 3 miles to 26 miles.
asdfghjkl (and Yoshi, since I noticed your comment in the last post):
Besides stretching, obtaining proper running shoes is the most important thing you can do. They are a bit expensive, but without proper running shoes, consistent running can leave you exposed to serious injury, and moreover, once you run with shoes which were properly selected and fitted, you will want to run even more – the difference is like night and day.
In every major city there are running stores which can help you properly select running shoes tailored to meet your needs. The store I go to (my first time) had me run on a treadmill, so they could observe and analyze my gait, pronation, etc… and pick a shoe that was right for me. Running shoe manufacturers make an infinite combination of shoes with properties made for different types of feet and people. Personally, I’ve found that my Asics shoes are the most comfortable. They run me about $150 a pair, and I switch them out every 6-8 months or so, but I can tell you it is worth it – my knees and ankles used to get very sore, and now I haven’t had pain in them in years from running.
This is especially important for distance runners (those training for marathons in particular) and those who do a heavy amount of running on a regular basis. Any doctor who sees athletes or specializes in sports medicine (and I’ve been to a few) will tell you that it’s worth the extra cost to get analyzed so you can buy proper shoes. Unfortunately, Yoshi, I have my doubts on whether a $30 pair from Famous Footwear are going to protect you. They may seem comfy now, but they might be causing damage that you are unaware of (and if you increase running, you may notice). If you are considering training for a marathon, PLEASE invest in proper shoes. Running is only beneficial if it’s healthy!
ashreinu: im talking about BY in general, and myself in specific. it definitely is a compliment, although i consider myself “normal” frum.
i think that many ppl see themselves as “normal” and in the middle, everyone below them is modern and everyone above them is way too frum. does anyone else agree?
BYM: I think that’s a pretty fair assessment. Being in the middle is often times considered desirable, while being on an extreme to either side is sometimes seen as undesirable. “Normal” to many or most means “the middle.” Everyone likes to consider themselves normal, and place others based on comparison to themselves. That being said, nobody is “normal.” Normal usually = boring 😛
Keep up the running though, it is so good for you. Another thing to keep in mind is that it is best to run either on a treadmill (which I hate), asphalt (streets), or paths/trails. Running on concrete sidewalks is terrible for your joints, particularly ankles and knees. Asphalt and paths/trails (and obviously treadmills) provide more “give” and bounce to help absorb the shock.
If you’re thinking about training for a marathon, I say go for it! It’s an accomplishment you will never forget, and it will really show you that you can do anything that you work at. Achieving a goal like that is intensely satisfying and boosts self-confidence and image. Someone pointed out Hal Higdon’s program, and I’ll second that recommendation. You can access basic training programs online, or he has a book out called “Marathon: The Ultimate Training Guide” which is very thorough and gives you a ton of useful and necessary information.
glad to report today i had some spare time & ran for 2 full hours!!!!! ahhhhh pure bliss, cleared my head & had the best ”runner high” ever!!!!!!!
I am SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!
Not ONE person pointed out that running in the streets causes one to lose their chaylek in Olam Habah!
After all, when you run you will invariably pass men and women who are not dressed tzniusdik. Also, you most likely will pass a house with a TV on, and through the window catch a glimpse of something treif.
Do you all realize how many gedolim DID NOT run? Obviously, daas Torah is NO RUNNING!
WOW! Moderator….I’m proud of you! You posted my facetious remark.
Yanky55: when was the last time you ran???
asdfghjkl, Yanky55 is another leitz. He too should take a look in Mesilas Yeshorim & the Sha’arei T’shuva regarding letzonus.
The Big One:no need to call posters leitzim!!!!!!
The Big One,
I think Yanky55 may have felt offended when some posters accused him of speaking loshon hara/ lying (despite repeated questions, I wasn’t able to clarify the exact nature of Yanky55’s “offense”) about a godol hador when he posted some facts about this godol in another thread.
The big one- Yes, now you now the truth. I am a leitz! I’ve now been outed….
Anon- I was not offended. I don’t see how anyone can be offended when posting with a screen name, but I was sarcasticly making a point about owning a TV, and “daas Torah”
in general.
Asdf…….thank you for your post. I’ve made comments about people’s posts, but I have never attacked a poster personally.
Can we keep this thread purely running?
Thats one of the best parts of actually running, you get to clear your head and not deal with any other distractions…
asdf – How long have you been running for? How long did it take you to build up your endurance to be able to run this long?
Yanky55,
I apologize for projecting then. I wrote what I did because I found those comments offensive. I hope you are not offended by what I wrote, since that surely was not my intention.
/end hijack
Anon- No apology necessary. I was not offended. Thank you nonetheless.
ASDF- I ran to shul last Shabbos for Mincha because I was a bit late.
Didn’t want to miss a “yehei shmei rabbah”.
And it’s a good thing I answer “yehei shmei rabbah” with all my koach,
since it gets HKB”H to tear up the gzar din against me for having a TV.
yanky surely should not be offended by his letzonus being mentioned, (and apparently he wasnt)
there are actually some pretty nice things about letzonus.
it gives you control, you dont have to worry about listening to others, and evaluating their words when they point out problems you might have. just laugh it off. the next world is very far away (does it even really exist?) no need to be so solemn and serious and all (the Chovos HaLevovos points this out.)
why you can even thank HK’BH for separating us and elevating us from the Nations during Havdalah, then go into the den and open up the pipes pouring all the Nations, values, talk, immorality, ways of dress, open and subliminal attitudes, nivil peh, prishus, and tumah into ones passive and receptive head. one touch of letzonos and……presto! no problem, no contradiction, all is well.
letzonus is precious.
Yanky, Please don’t hijack this thread and do everyone a favor and start a new thread entitled “letzonus” for all your letzonus. There are some other posters who are sure to join you.
Curious:
i’ve been running for the past 3 years!!! yesterday was the first time i tried running for 2 straight hours!!! i felt kinda sore today after that run, so i only ran my usual hour & a half today!!!
have any of you runners ever experienced any injuries running?? i had some ankle problems a year ago, but b”h doin great now!!!1
Feivel- Thanks for pointing out the wonderful things about leitzunus. This way if I ever get the urge to give it up, I will remember all the benefits!
(Btw, when I wrote that I ran to answer Yehei Shmei Rabbah, I was NOT joking around about that. I am extremely makpid to answer with kavanah and as gabbai in my minyan, I do my best to educate the tzibbur about the importance of it and the schar one gets for it.
I am proud of the fact that I have completely eliminated talking by davening, which is unfortunately an illness that is not confined to MO yidden).
THEN, after Havdalah, I go “open the pipes” and absorb the “subliminal attitudes” (wow! big word!) etc. How did you know my TV is in the den?
Yanky55:Btw, when I wrote that I ran to answer Yehei Shmei Rabbah,
wow at least you do run!!!!!!!!!!!
“I am proud of the fact that I have completely eliminated talking by davening”
yasher koach!
asdf – can you map your run at mapmyrun .com and then make us jealous by telling us the mileage you complete every day?! My 3.5 miles are baby steps compared to yours.
Have you ever completed a marathon or half-marathon?
yoshi:How long have you been running for?? got any running injuries??
Let’s get back to the running thread please. The situation is just deteriorating, please open a laitzanus thread if you’d like, but please stick to the thread topic.
asdfghjkl – how did you manage to run for 2 whole hours?
Question for professional runners – How did you get your start in running and what mileage/goals did you start out with?
Ashreinu: well i run for 1 & a 1/2 hours daily usually, had some time to kill b4 work, was up for a challenge yesterday as well!!
i got my start in running, cause i was always a fast runner in sports & stuff. i decided to try running & loved it ever since!!! i started running for a half hour & built up from there!!! i’ve never been a person to track my mileage while running, just like i never count my swimming laps while swimming!!(i’m a champion swimmer too!!) to me it was really how long i could run or swim for!!!
asdfghjkl – thanks!
I’m at 1/2 an hour and sticking to that for a while until I feel very comfortable and get very used to it, before building up.
It snowed in NY today. Just a bit – only about 1 inch stuck before the drizzle washed it away…it was GLORIOUS! Yum, I think that’s the best weather to run in. With a dry, light snow, the air is still, so it feels warmer, the light snow is mesmerizingly beautiful, there is still traction and the greatest part is the “air conditioning!”
Ashreinu: good luck!! keep it up!!! air conditioning???
Ashreinu – I think we need to team up.
I was inside with a friend yesterday watching the snowflakes fall, and I just kept saying “I’d love to go for a nice run outside now!” And she just looked at me like I was losing it. They just don’t understand…
I’d ask you where you run, but you’re probably not going to advertise it here.
I just started running several months ago, but have to take it really slow and easy due to a previous (serious) sports injury. I run 3.5 miles 3x/week, but do have to slow down every now and then for a walking break. I just keep thinking to myself “slow and steady wins the race!”
And btw, ashreniu – I listened to R’ Shafier’s shmuzin on my last 2 runs.
so any good tips on how to really get started? I’m so out of shape! I used to use my elliptical for 45 minutes 3-4X a week, and since I got pregnant (and had a baby) I have not done anything. So, 1.5 years of no strenuous excersize!
yoshi—thanx!!! no i have not calculated my millage yet!! i was thinking of getting one of those things to wear to calculate it, but have not had time to get one yet!!! you got a great deal on your sneakers!!! mine cost $150!!! i got them last year at modells & love them!!!
If you want an amazing treadmill and the thinnest and most portable in the world go for the Adidas i-run! Phenomenal!
Believe it or not people- I started doing skipping rope!!! No kidding! It’s amazing exercise for your legs and arms. Really great.
noitallmr: that’s really great jumpin rope!!! before i srarted running i used to do that too!!!!
asdfghjkl – I meant the cold weather acts as air conditioning, to help keep you cool throughout the run. Thanks for the encouragement!
Curious – The most I’d divulge here is that I live in New York City. I travel alot for shabbos, simchas, errands and shopping:) you can email me (info on the profile), who knows? Maybe I’ll be in your neck of the woods one of these days and we can ‘run’ into eachother…
You’re right. Listen to your body and go the pace you need. It’s amazing for you and ‘slow and steady’ definetely gets there! So, which “Shmuz’s” did you listen to?
noitallmr – Jump rope is great excesize – the pros do it too!
asdfghjkl – I meant the cold weather acts as air conditioning, to help keep you cool throughout the run. Thanks for the encouragement!
Curious – The most I’d divulge here is that I live in New York City. I travel alot for shabbos, simchas, errands and shopping:) you can email me (info on the profile), who knows? Maybe I’ll be in your neck of the woods one of these days and we can ‘run’ into eachother…
You’re right. Listen to your body and go the pace you need. It’s amazing for you and ‘slow and steady’ definetely gets there! So, which “Shmuz’s” did you listen to?
noitallmr – Jump rope is great excesize – the pros do it too!
What’s the olam’s consensus on these two topics?
1) What is your personal stretching routine – pre and post workout?
2) What is your warm up/cool down routine?
Thanks!
Ashreinu: after i clicked to post it i figured that’s what you were saying!!
curious:lol about making you jealous about how many miles i run!!! thanx!! no i have never done marathons!!!
SJSinNYC: the key to getting started with exercise, expecially running is you need to really want to do it!!! you can’t think about it as something you have to do, but hate doing it!! get started by seeing what type of exercises you enjoy like swimming, running, biking, doing treadmill running, yoga maybe!!! good luck to you!!!
I do not stretch before. The latest research shows stretching while your muscles are cold is not recommended and there is a greater risk of injury. I’ll do a fast walk for 5 minutes before I start my run. Also a fast 5 minute walk afetr I run. I do a full 10 minute stretch after each workout.
Ashreinu – I listened to part 1 & 2 of his 3 part series on tefillah. That’s something I definitely need improvement in. And BTW, NYC is a big place… I’d know. 😉
Yoshi – do you run backwards down the basepaths?
what company sneakers do you all wear to run??? great comfy sneakers are key!!
New Balance for motion control and stability, prevents overpronating.
Nike Air Max- do yourself a favor and go for them! Really comfortable and cheapish for the quality.
Does/did anyone here learn Karate or martial arts?
Curious: in what size???
mods i was so kidding with the last one!!! sry i had to ask it for sir joseph!!! he’s like a legend around here!!!!!!!
these are my sneakers!!!! the nike air max 360 lll iD Running shoe-now priced at $165!!!!!sharp right???
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