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October 11, 2012 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #605178yosefc18Member
Im having a difficult time finding interest in gemora. I do my seyders in yeshiva but i dont look for time to do it lishma. I noticed that reading sefarim that work to improve in a certain area help me alot. For instance several of the Nefesh Shimshon books have really helped me, does anybody know of a sefer that focuses on a love for torah/gemara for bochrim?
October 12, 2012 12:20 am at 12:20 am #899278HIEParticipantpush yourself…
October 12, 2012 12:34 am at 12:34 am #899279fortheloveoftorahMemberRead the book Rav Nosson Tzvi Finkel by Artscroll. It helped me.
October 12, 2012 1:00 am at 1:00 am #899280yeshivaguy45ParticipantMishnas R’ Aharon, but it might be complex
October 12, 2012 1:01 am at 1:01 am #899281WIYMemberyosefc18
From my own experience you cant start liking or loving Gemara until you get decently good at it. Getting decently good at it requires a lot of time and effort trying to break your head to understand Gemara Rashi and Tosafos if you are up to that. No book or sefer will get you to love Gemara although it may help you appreciate the Gadlus of the mitzva of limud Hatora. I recommend you ask your Rabbeim this question as they are the ones who should be asked this question. I dont want to judge you or your Rabbeim but it is odd that this is where you turn with this question when you have Rabbeim, Meishivs, Mashgiach, Kollel Yungerleit, fellow Bachurim who love to learn, Rosh Yeshiva…to ask this to.
October 12, 2012 1:15 am at 1:15 am #899282crisisoftheweekMemberIf you are doing the sedarim maybe you can use that free time to find something else you like to learn instead.
“You cant go forcing something if it’s just not right”
Hatzlacha Rabbah!
October 12, 2012 2:33 am at 2:33 am #899283YW BandMemberFind a geshmake rebbe! Learning how to learn isnt done from reading, but from looking at how Torah shaped a person. Htazlacha!
October 12, 2012 3:50 am at 3:50 am #899284yosefc18Membereasier said than done…but i feel that if i invest time at night reading about how to help myself, during seyder ill remind myself of what i read and it will push me
October 12, 2012 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #899285HaLeiViParticipantKol Has’chalos Kashos. Just like you can’t enjoy the music from your violin when you first start taking lessons, your learning starts out as a burden.
In truth, you probably do already enjoy it in retrospect but you find it hard to get started. If this is the case you should keep reminding yourself that it does become enjoyable.
The more you can produce from your learning the more enjoyable it becomes. It can be through being Mechadesh, outlining a Sugya, sumarizing, Paskening.
And most importantly, learn what you enjoy. In your own time, don’t push yourself to learn the Yeshiva’s Masechta. Choose your Masechta or your own Limud (Nach, Ein Yaakov, Halacha, Seder Hadoros, Drush, Mussar, Machshava).
October 12, 2012 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #899286YehudahTzviParticipantA very helpful book is: “Who’s Who in the Talmud”
“This exceptional work, with entries from Rav Abba to Rav Zutra, is an unprecedented study of every rabbi in the Talmud. The reader will find concise entries on every rabbinic personality mentioned in the Talmud, major and minor alike, and will discover such facts as their dates of birth, education, and occupation. Most entries are accompanied by a brief story about the rabbinic personality, with sources cited for easy reference.”
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