Another Reason Not to Vote Democrat

The grandfather was indeed a terrorist. The grandson is not. In fact, the grandson, Ammar Campa-Najjar, is a Christian (the terrorist grandfather was Muslim), and the grandson had denounced his father’s actions.

The following quote is from Campa-Naijar’s campaign web site:

“America must always be protected, its values and citizens defended. We must uphold human rights globally and remain a vigilant force against terrorism. To do this we must enable and ensure our military is strong, resilient, properly funded and fully supported.

I believe that our military should prioritize the use of force whenever our national security is at stake. The world has become increasingly dangerous and complex. We should use all the tools of American power, beginning with diplomacy and economic development, to confront global threats and always ensure war is the last resort.”

This is Campa-Naijar’s second try for this congressional seat. In 2018, he unfortunately lost to a Republican crook, Duncan Hunter, who has been sentenced to 11 months in prison for illegally using campaign funds to finance affairs with five different women. (I am not making this up.) The start of his prison term has been delayed because of coronavirus.

Grandsons often fail to follow their evil ancestors. For example, Henry Ford was one of the worst anti-Semites in American history but his grandsons became great supporters of the Jewish community, contributing to Jewish charities and sponsoring “Schindler’s List” on television.

I do understand that we cannot punish the descendants of the wicked for the evils of history. But that doesn’t explain Obama. It is said that there was never a terrorist he failed to support and fund. Any exaggeration involved in that statement is microscopic. We now have several members of Congress who subscribe to the same values. So when any of these resho’im endorses a candidate, it tells me that there is something sinister here, and that the votes should be directed elsewhere.

This might cause 1 not to vote for Obama (if he was running for office) because he endorse this person. The Democratoc Party as a whole did not make this endorsement and it is faulty logic to refuse to vote for someone who did not endorse because Obama did.
1 just hates Dems

CT, Speaker Pelosi just endorsed Rep Omar,despite not only past antisemitic comments but borderline antisemitic ads in current race.

“Pelosi just endorsed Rep Omar”

Trump endorsed Paul Nehlen, an actual Nazi, in a congressional primary in 2016.

I look forward to all those who consider endorsements to be disqualifying to be endorsing Joe Biden rather than Donald Trump.

1
Obama is working very hard to elect Democrats because we have suffered great;y under Trump nd the McConnell Senate.
He is not working to salvage his legacy.

I don’t know any rich Dems in my small town. I do know some comfortable people in both parties and unaffiliated, as well. None of us are patting each other on the back….DON”T YOU KNOW THERE”S A PANDEMIC?????????????????

The party isn’t shifting to Socialism. FDR started that in the 1930s with Social Security, Johnson in the 1960s with Medicare. I want single payer Universal healthcare like the rest of the civilized world. Mrs. CTL was in the hospital again last week…6 days in ICU. Her policy is through ACA, I’m on Medicare. If Trump had her way, she’d have no coverage because of preexisting conditions. Maybe you don’t care if you go bankrupt trying to pay medical expenses, I do.

Democrats and Republicans support their incumbents for re-election. Republicans were happy to have Ron Paul, who was even worse than Omar, in Congress for 23 years, and they never did anything about him. Pelosi at least has twisted Omar’s arm into a pretzel to get her to vote against anti-Semitism — three times. That said, if you really cared, you would contribute to Omar’s primary opponent, Antone Melton-Meaux. I have. antoneforcongress dot com.

Jack

How offensive, arrogant, and dishonest can you get! I have heard lies, bigger lies, and then your comment took dishonesty to new heights.

You wrote: “Obama has no ulterior motives other than to see what he believes in continued.” Firstly, that means his legacy. Second, he has uttered his hate for Trump so many times it was getting boring. He wants Biden in, as this is a proverbial puppet. No mind of his own, in serious cognitive decline, and with dozens of skeletons in his closet. Obama will reign once again through his stuffed toy, Sleepy Joe.

“His legacy is etched in gold already , no matter what the spiteful, despicable individual that came after him did .” Actually, no. Obama’s administration is lauded by no one outside of the DNC and the media they own. Otherwise, it was a foreign relations disaster, and domestically worse. Trump spoke like a fool, with his impulsive and offensive tweeting, and his narcissistic rants. But he accomplished more in a few months of presidency that Obama did in 8 years. There were many idiocies that needed to be reversed, like the Iran deal and others. Nothing is etched in gold. Much is etched in manure.

“Nobody advocates or enjoys violence.
“Elimination of police.” ?!
The slogan is ‘defund the police’ . It is not ‘eliminate the police.
It is hard to believe that someone thinks that someone believes that.
When the republicans deal with racism and brutality by the police there will no longer be any protests.” Nonsense. Did you listen to some of the Democrat politicians? They advocate abolishing the police. NYC’s shifting of a billion was decried as useless, with the pressure to defund them to the zero level. They said it, and your cherished biased media reported that with pride.

“Obama never gave 150 billion dollars to Iran. This is totally false.” That is an outright lie. He even had it delivered in secret and in cash. Again, check your biased media.

You are pathetic. If you hate Trump, I can understand even though I may disagree. He is infrequently presidential, and i find it unbecoming. No, he did not create or escalate the racial divides. That nonsense is the narrative of the Dems, as are several other lies they brandish in their ads and media performances. But get on board with the matters of fact and fiction. I am willing to discuss, debate, and even be wrong on things. But I will never spend my time debating an issue that is fundamentally dishonest. Meanwhile, Obama sounded much more pleasant. But he wrecked too much. Trump has been the opposite. He sounds irritating, but accomplished an amazing amount.

The Little I Know,
Please do not resort to name calling.
If you can disagree with objectivity there is what to discuss.

First, you are confusing 2 different accusations against Obama regarding Iran and money.
The 150 Billion dollars was never delivered with cash. I can’t even imagine $150,000,000,000 in cash.
There was 400 Million dollars delivered to Iran in cash on a pallet in January 2016. It was on the same day as 4 American citizens detained were released and it was claimed to be for a decades-old dispute with Iran that had been litigated before an international tribunal and America was obligated to pay. You should check your version.

The truth is I do not know Obama’s motivations, but neither do you. That is my point.
You are not a psychologist and to propose that you are 100% positive of your understanding of Obama’s actions sounds a bit arrogant to me.
His legacy is debatable (between favorable and critical ) as are all presidents .Presidents know that they must say and act in unpopular ways. Some people will laud them for it and some people will condemn them for it. You can claim that it is etched in manure and I can claim that it is etched in gold. I am not lying or being offensive or arrogant and neither are you.
To claim that any action taken by a past president is in order to secure their legacy, without reading their minds , is pure speculation. Obama and Trump are doing what they believe in. Of course after they are out of office they will want what they believe in to continue. Nothing to do with a legacy.

“Obama’s administration is lauded by no one outside of the DNC and the media they own. “This is partially true. But there are things that Obama did that even some republicans are in favor of . The Affordable Care act is one. The reversing the economy from the Financial crisis is another. Eliminating OBL is another . Trump also has done things that he will be lauded for by all Americans. For example, the first 3 years the economy was doing great according to all standards.
You have your perspective but it is very subjective.
The different views will partially depend on whether you listen to fox news or the Lincoln project.

I never heard that a politician was in favor with the complete elimination of all police departments.
Were they also in favor in freeing everyone from jails and prisons? Eliminating the army, navy, air force and marines? Eliminating the department of sanitation? Fire Department ?
Where are you getting this information from ?
The NYC police are still paid decently (not terrific) and can retire after 20 years with a pension. No need to be so worried about their pay or being eliminated.

I never wrote anything about the racial divide and whether Trump is escalating.
Regarding this point , I think we can agree that he is not trying to de-escalate it.

1 it sounds like you are rather well connected with xPresident Obama and the inside workings of the Democratic party. Are you undercover at these meetings or the strategy sessions? I’d love to be impressed by your insider knowledge.

The No. 1 Reason not to vote Republican:

The Trumpkopf…..also reason nos. 2-10.

“Bibi made a public presentation with the evidence of much of the documentation of the activities they continued to carry on secretly”

Bibi lied. Repeatedly. Before the Deal, After the Deal. His lies before Congress were so blatant that the Republicans didn’t even bother to arrange for a vote against the deal. The IAEA weapons inspectors confirmed repeatedly that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear deal. And his description of what was to be in the JCPOA in his speech to Congress was so different from reality as to wonder whether he should be involuntarily committed. (Yes, it was that bad.)

Furthermore, Bibi did not propose any alternative to doing nothing and letting Iran get nuclear weapons — in six months, if you actually believe Bibi. (He had been saying “six months” for years.) The only real “alternative” was World War III.

“Signing this was an unmitigated gall on Obama’s part.”

It wasn’t Obama to “sign”. Kerry signed it. The JCPOA was then approved in a UN Security Council Resolution.

I know that most commenters here hate Obama and love Trump. But Obama and Kerry removed the Iranian nuclear threat and Trump brought it back. Such irrational hatred and stupid love should make any politician think twice before sticking their necks out to help Israel. We need to support those who support us.

Dr. Hall-

The United States was the first country to obtain nuclear weapons and it took the United States 3-4 years to develop nuclear weapons- and that was over 75 years ago (tomorrow will be 75 years since the first Atom Bomb was used in conflict).

The technology to create nuclear weapons is out there and readily available to any country that has the desire and money. Iran has stated that they have the desire and they definitely have the money now. I don’t think anyone will disagree with that.

When Prime Minister Netanyahu stated that Iran was six months away from obtaining the bomb he was probably correct. If not through covert operations to derail the process they probably would have had nuclear weapons long ago. There’s no reason why with all the advancements in science and technology over the past 75 years that it should take more than a few years.

The IAEA inspectors may have confirmed multiple times that Iran was in compliance with the deal but they can only check the sites that they know about. The trove of information that the Mossad stole from an Iranian warehouse proves that there were locations unknown to the IAEA.

Regardless of weather the deal was good for Israel or not most will agree that after the 15 years are over Iran would have continued their quest for nuclear weapons- with billions of Dollars more. Even if the deal would have worked like it was supposed to (and you don’t know for certain that it did) it only pushed the problem down the road and exacerbated it by giving them access to so much cash.

The prime minister of Israel has access to top secret reports that we don’t. He may choose to disclose some of them while keeping others under wraps. He may also decide against sharing it with Congress given that some of the members are rabid Anti-Semites.

If you’re going to publicly call him a liar can you bring some examples? Please provide some cases where he stated something as a fact that was later proven to be factually false.

What was the gain of breaking the treaty? Now Iran can do what it wants.

They were allowed to do business with China and Russia, both of whom we cannot trust.

Interesting, seems like Charlie and the Netura Karta have pretty similar views.

CTL:

You drank the koolaid again. You are blabbering the Democrat narrative, and believe that repeating the nonsense multiple times will result in others buying it. I thought you were a lot smarter than that.

We desperately needed a huge number of conservative judges, to rip us away from the liberal legislating from the bench.

Sino-US relations were horrible, and lopsided. They needed change. Just that with Biden and his cronies, that would never happen. And the American population and our government would lose. The trade balance was awful, and was heading us into an abyss.

Buddy Putin? That’s the narrative that the likes of Pelosi and Maxine Waters were pushing. Nonsense.

I don’t mind disagreeing with you on the vouchers issue or the taxes that fund social programs. We can at least have a dialogue based on facts and their interpretations. But the drivel you spout that is nothing more than the Democrat Party narrative is pathetic, and I thought you were above that.

@AviK
I have heard and read T Sowell and am not impressed.
You are in Israel, are you under the healthcare plan? I;d like everyone in America to have that option and am willing to pay more taxes to do so.
This is a representative democracy and we elect legislators to decide what to tax and how to spend. We can vote for others in the next election if we are not happy with their choices. I’d rather that than a parliamentary system with votes of no confidence and 3 failed elections and no government formed.

We will never agree

“You are in Israel, are you under the healthcare plan?”

There are very few things more hypocritical than Israelis who benefit from their country’s generous welfare state condemning attempts to get the US even one that is a fraction as generous. Just today I had an unpleasant encounter with an Israeli who was blasting the idea of extending unemployment compensation in the US to help people cope with the consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic. I have previously had many such encounters with Israelis who like their own universal health insurance but think that Americans with pre-existing conditions should be left to die.

I wonder whether these hypocrites are actually Jews. They certainly don’t think like Jews. And if we wonder why US support for Israel is declining, maybe we should look at these obnoxious Israelis.