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They only do it because you’re too cheap to donate money otherwise.
That’s the sad truth.
Getting volunteers to fundraise nowadays is almost impossible, you need to pay people otherwise it wont get done
“You can’t just hang up the phone on them”
Yes you can. Try it. You’ll be amazed. I’m not saying you should just slam down the phone. What I am saying is, if you say you are not interested and they continue to go on and on, politely say, I said no and I will hang up in 5 seconds. After that, they have the option to say ok, or go on and on and be hung up on.
So now that everyone had a chance to make fun of my screen name, one that is accurate I am a lawyer in CT. I don’t do medical Malpractice cases so no CT scans in my files…
I suggest that none of you rely on Wikipedia for authoritative knowledge. Almost anyone can post or edit entries.
My discussion was based on actual experience having a Chinese child. I doubt there are many in the Coffee Room with such a child, but out of town it is not that unusual in the Jewish world to have one. In fact my rov recommended such an adoption as when marriage tome came around there could be no possibility of mamzerus. Only Chinese girls are available for adoption, never boys.
Now back to the telemarketers, My father Z”L taught me more than 50 years ago to simple say “I’m sorry we have no budget for that, thank you for calling, Goodbye….then hang up.”
No lies, no wasting the callers’ time and very polite.
I no full well the wrath of callers, especially at dinner time. I am currently running for local office, and we call voters from 6-8:15 PM. People are quick to yell into the phone that they are on the no-call list, however charities and politicos are exempt under the law. Also any company you have done business with in recent history may call you.
I see you can take a joke on yourself.
You have my endorsement!
Just don’t call me.
My discussion was based on actual experience having a Chinese child.
Your having a Chinese child, which is wonderful, doesn’t make the term Chinese Auction offensive.
Almost anyone can edit Wikipedia, but if the edit is against the rules it is usually taken down pretty quickly.
I have a Chinese daughter, my wife and I adopted her in China 18 years ago at a time when due to government one child per family policy, newborn girls were being killed.
BTW, we also have a white, American born adopted daughter who is 30. We did not start to adopt until we had 3 natural birth children, then for medical reasons could have no more.
I am currently running for local office, and we call voters from 6-8:15 PM.
You don’t seem concerned about revealing your identity, CTLAYWYER.
I no full well the wrath of callers, especially at dinner time. I am currently running for local office, and we call voters from 6-8:15 PM. People are quick to yell into the phone that they are on the no-call list, however charities and politicos are exempt under the law. Also any company you have done business with in recent history may call you.
So you deliberately call people who you know have asked not to be called, during dinner, and you think that’s ok because it’s “legal”? That’s not very nice.
Making Chinese auctions is also legal, you know.
popa_bar_abba
No, I don’t deliberately call people who I know have asked not to be called.
The calling list is the list of registered voters in the district. It is generated by the Registrar of Voters and contains the phone numbers given by people when they register to vote. This government provided list is not checked against a ‘no call list’ because calls to these numbers are not subject to that list.
If a voter does not want calls from candidates and political parties/pollsters, the voter does not have to provide a phone number when registering to vote, or can ask the Registrar to remove the phone number.
Just because something is legal doesn’t mean it isn’t offensive. Slaughterhouses are legal, but I wouldn’t want to live next door to one because the smell and noise is offensive.
The history of the Chinese Auction, where the replacement of the word tricky by Chinese is documented and offensive to those of Chinese decent.
My family arrived in the US in the early 1870s and were storekeepers in the south. Those general merchandise stores were known as Jew Stores by the populace. It wasn’t illegal, but is sure was offensive.
If you are told by someone with a Chinese child that the term ‘Chinese Auction’ is offensive, why fight it? It would be far more respectful to say: “I didn’t know that, thank you for educating me.” That doesn’t mean you’ll change your opinion or practice, it does mean you show courtesy and perhaps compassion for a fellow human being.
Comlink-X
I do not reveal details about my children in any campaign literature, that is private. It should make a difference in how voters vote and I keep family life separate.
There are 169 towns in CT and I have not identified where I live, nor the office I seek. I do not think you would easilly find me from what I post here.
As a parent and spouse of French nationals I hereby inform y’all that referring to the food as French Fries is most offensive to Frenchmen not desiring to be associated with such fatty unhealthy heart-attack inducing food.
CTL, it’s not a mitzvah to get offended. There is no documentation as to the origin of the term, only theories. One theory I read is that the term “Chinese” was chosen to give the impression that the event would be exotic. Another theory is that they used to serve Chinese food at these auctions. Another theory is that originally the prizes were beautiful Noritake and Mikasa sets. I’ll make up some more if you want.
People find dinner time calls offensive. You should run your list through the DNC list even if it’s not legally mandated.
Joseph, thank you for educating me. From now on, I’ll call them chips.
I would call them freedom fries, but that would offend dictators.
When the telemarketer calls and offers to come to my home to install an alarm system (for free- of course!), I do not hesitate to hang up on their face.
The calling list is the list of registered voters in the district. It is generated by the Registrar of Voters and contains the phone numbers given by people when they register to vote. This government provided list is not checked against a ‘no call list’ because calls to these numbers are not subject to that list.
If a voter does not want calls from candidates and political parties/pollsters, the voter does not have to provide a phone number when registering to vote, or can ask the Registrar to remove the phone number.
Oh but surely you could check it against the federal do not call list. And surely you are aware that nobody knows you don’t have to give the voter registrar your phone number, or that it means you get telemarketing calls from candidates.
So to me you’re deliberately calling people whom you know don’t want to be called, during dinner. Maybe you’re willing to do that–but own it. I happen to think a prospective elected official would do better than that, but I happen to think most elected officials are narcissists.
I’m willing to call a chinese auction “chinese auction.” I’m willing to do so because that’s what it’s called, and because I have seen zero evidence that there is any offensive origin. I’ll own it.
If indeed the term “chinese auction” has anything to do with China, it is not a negative. Pencils are not offensive either, even though one popular origin story for their traditional color is similar to calling the auction “chinese”.
Daas Yochid
Noritake and Mikasa are JAPANESE, NOT Chinese products. Your predjudice and/or ignorance now shines through.
No, they all don’t look alike, just as you don’t have horns.
Japanese , Korean and Chinese characters are very different and its not hard to tell the differnce.
Chinese characters are very fancy caligraphy and require alot of skill to write them, Korean writing is very simple lines and circles and actually quite dull especially compared to chinese. Japanese is somewhere in the middle , it is not as fancy as chinese
I’m being a bit mean on this thread. I don’t know if it’s so bad for candidates to call. I once campaigned for a friend and we called houses on election day to urge them to go vote. Maybe the exception in the law is because many people would want to get those calls.
Did anybody dare think that the OP might have an old phone wiht no screen. Or maybe can’t see well. It might just be nice to collect a few cents each and get a speaking phone. (To understand that is an art of its own!)
Noritake and Mikasa are JAPANESE, NOT Chinese products. Your predjudice and/or ignorance now shines through.
I note they are called “china.”
Noritake and Mikasa are JAPANESE, NOT Chinese products. Your predjudice and/or ignorance now shines through.
Wait, so when my wife asks me to buy her a set of fine China, she’s being racist?
Wait, so when my wife asks me to buy her a set of fine China, she’s being racist?
When my wife says to buy China, she doesn’t mean Noritake or Mikasa.
popa: Your definition of racist is when you call a Japanese made product China, robing it from its proper origin.
When my wife says to buy China, she doesn’t mean Noritake or Mikasa.
Okay, I’ll bite. What does she mean?
I don’t see how clothing something in a robe from the same proper origin is racist.
Hmmph! Check your privilege!
(Is anyone else seeing ads for tableware on this thread?)
Did anybody dare think that the OP might have an old phone
wiht no screen. Or maybe can’t see well. It might just be
nice to collect a few cents each and get a speaking phone.
Let the OP buy his own phones. [Hangs up]
When my wife says to buy China, she doesn’t mean Noritake or Mikasa.
Okay, I’ll bite. What does she mean?
Either some other brand, or the country.
“Those general merchandise stores were known as Jew Stores by
the populace. It wasn’t illegal, but it sure was offensive.”
such stores were known to overcharge)?
“Noritake and Mikasa are JAPANESE, NOT Chinese products.
Your prejudice and/or ignorance now shines through.
No, they all don’t look alike, just as you don’t have horns.”
Asian people* looking alike is not a belief
but a perception, and one that goes both ways –
Asians perceive Westerners as similar-looking.
(*You know the term I didn’t use,
of course. How wonderfully PC of me.)
I do not reveal details about my children
in any campaign literature.
There are 169 towns in CT and I have not identified
where I live, nor the office I seek.
How many of those towns do frum Jews live in?
How many frum Jews are running for local offices in those towns? How many of those who do are lawyers?
I do not think you would easily find me from what I post here.
Well, yes, not easily…
But anyone aware of you in real life would
It is his choice to be indentifiable. It is not your worry to be compiling profiles, or admonishing posters for their choices. Your list is creepy, in my opinion, and you may want to veer from anything resembling stalking around here. Or modding, for that matter.
If somebody figures out who somebody else is, then what happens?
I might sound ignorant or maybe just new -not very new- but not long enough to know the answer.
If you figure out who somone is you can let them know, you can not let them know, or you can post that you figured them out and make them go crazy trying to figure out who you are.
Don’t bother trying to hint to their identity online though because it won’t go through.
What if I find out who I am?
Joseph, how dare you call a spade a spade? That’s a derogatory term for an African-American.
“JAPANESE, NOT Chinese products”
Reminds me of the punchline. Iceberg, Goldberg, whats the difference.
I remember soliciting my Chinese boss to donate a prize for a yeshiva chinese auction (I gave him a pamphlet explaining what it was). He thought it such a good idea, that he wanted to do something like it at his own kids private school. He was not offedned at all by the name. Interestingly enough, he WAS offended by the fake chinese scribble on the menu at the kosher chinese restaurant he took us to for “the holidays”.
I remember soliciting my Chinese boss to donate a prize for a yeshiva chinese auction (I gave him a pamphlet explaining what it was). He thought it such a good idea, that he wanted to do something like it at his own kids private school. He was not offedned at all by the name.
How do you say uncle tom in chinese?
????
I actually had to convince the last (and only, so far) person
whose identity I found out that I didn’t know them in real life.
In fact, I said too much, and they were able to find out
how I had found them, and almost exactly who I was.
Mod-29, is that post still creepy to you after
I point out that the info in it had been posted
in this very thread just a day or two earlier?
Absolutely. I had no question about where the information was from. Your compilation of it was creepy
A meshulach from an organization that considers itself Jewish came into my office the other day and was badgering us for tzedaka while we were trying to work. Someone tried giving him a dollar and he refused it, showing us a check from another “working balabos” and saying he won’t take less than $18. I told him that someone had come collecting for the same institution just a few weeks ago and he denied it. Then I told him that I already get emails from his institution and that I would prefer to give through Rabbi Ploni’s Chinese Auction, so he tried to tell me he was collecting for something different than Rabbi Ploni. This guy had a lot of chutzpah.
CTLAWYER, is your daughter stubborn? Because if so, then she is a Chinese Akshan!
The telemarketers seem to know the worst time to call, and so they do. Like when I’m cleaning for Pesach and washing the floor on my knees. I’m no youngster and it took me time to get to my feet, only to hear them scream in my ears when I picked up the phone. AND WHY DO YESHIVAS THINK IT’S OKAY TO CALL 5 MINUTES BEFORE SHABBOS!!!
No yeshiva calls five minutes before Shabbos.
Congratulations to CTLAWYER (if he won).
Thank you. I appreciate that you remembered.
I now look forward to two years of attending even more meetings and hearings.
BTW> I personally visited over 3,000 homes in my electoral district and made more than 5,000 phone calls. There were many voters who told me at the polls that I was receiving their vote, because I made that personal call to introduce myself and solicit their vote. A number of my opponents used robo-calls, and the consensus is that if you can’t be bothered to make live calls, you will not be trusted to respond to your constituents.
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