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Outsider,
How does this statement:
I don’t want to appear like I’m putting anyone down
coexist with this one?
I am absolutely amazed by the lack of scientific, literary, and other academic knowledge possessed by many (most?) Yeshiva guys.
I know it’s not their way to study “worldly” things, but on the Outside, if you argue against the world’s age, you are a total religious anomaly.
If you make the claim that you are an “outsider”, meaning that you haven’t lived within the Orthodox Jewish or “Yeshiva” world, then where did you acquire the data to make the claim that most Yeshiva bochrim are ignorant of scientific, literary, or other academic knowledge? Stereotyping?
Also, why do you single out this specific group, when ignorance of basic literature, history, and science is epidemic in the U.S. as a whole?
Also, why do you single out this specific group, when ignorance of basic literature, history, and science is epidemic in the U.S. as a whole?
We really need a “like” button.
Is it really a surprise when zero classes of science, literature, social studies, math, are offered at Yeshivas?
And on top of that, they are highly discouraged to explore the world outside lest they view immodesty, and other sinful activities.
Again, I am truly and wonderfully impressed at the Jewish education that these young men receive. While there is a lack of secular studies, one cannot fault them for bad education, just not a diverse education.
The shul that I attend has been blessed with many Yeshiva students that spend Shabbat with us. And I have had the opportunity to speak with many of them, and their rejection of ideas of modern science is uniform.
I didn’t single out traditional Jews, it was brought up in the comment “Some people here are so ignorant.” and that was my response.
nossond: It is not so clear that nail-biting or hair-pulling is only D’rabannan. That is Tosfos’s Shittah which seems to be quoted in the Rama, but there are a number of Rishonim who hold it’s D’oraisa.
Sam: At least nail biting and hair pulling should be considered a shinui, as they’re not the normal way to cut nails or hair.
“Is it really a surprise when zero classes of science, literature, social studies, math, are offered at Yeshivas?”
wah!
can you really write that with a straight face?
In many secular Jewish households, the younger generation is forced to study science excessively to become doctors/lawyers. Very often such such preoccupation is harmful even for the mental health.
Back to the OP – I also struggle to this day with the same issue down to every detail (except yom kippur B”H I managed to get thru somehow) – I am a woman and I am not sure but it seems you’re male so not sure it’d work, the one thing that has – mostly – worked for me is fake nails…BUT I had a y”t with a tevila that I couldn’t use them, and I asked my rav about the bitter stuff which helps somewhat temporarily (it would always wear off somewhat and then I’d bite but when I reapply right away its more bitter and works more effectively), but the lamed tes malachos says that clear nail polish is tzoveya cuz it enhances the natural color of the nails – so he said I can put the bitter stuff on ON SHABBOS OR Y”T (a very big rav in E”Y) AROUND (not on) the nails…I assume that would even work for a guy, and if you’re applying it every time you realize ur tempted to bite it should work well if you’re motivated and invested in trying! the bitter stuff I ordered 2 types from amazon.com… I actually make it thru a 3 day y”t after 25 yrs of this awful habit that way (started at age 6 🙁 ), so hopefully you can do it too!
It was such an unbelievable feeling after YEARS of not being able to get a single shabbos without at least biting off a bit of skin…I am still struggling but that’s the newest development, for whoever it can help!!
I would be curious for a mekor for the putting tumah in your body thing (assuming one washed negel vasser) if anyone has any idea…TIA!
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