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UNITY! We as a people have to realize that we are ALL G-d’s children and He hates when we fight. We are so into trends, society, different sects, different levels of kashrus… Why can’t we all just get along?? Parents hate when they see their children fighting about nonsense, so too Hashem hates when His children fight about non sense
Of course we can get along, just as long as we do everything my way.
amen. something must be done, we have enough anti semitism from the outside, its time for people to wake up and relize that we are all brothers, we are all here for one purpose, to get close to hashem. we all have our own ways of doing that and no ones way is beter than the other, and no individual has the right to put down someone elses way of avodas hashem. WE NEED TO UNITE, WE NEED MASHIACH!!!!!!!
“Hashem knows what we need even before we do, and prepares the solutions to our problems even before we become aware of them. However, because He loves us so much, He does not provide the solutions until we ask. Building a relationship with G-d is even more important than obtaining what we want, and Hashem therefore waits for us to cry out to Him and ask Him for help so we can draw closer to Him and build our relationship” ~ Divrei Chizuk
Just because we disagree on certain hashkafic or halachic issues doesn’t mean we don’t get along. Machlokles is a part of Torah. Part of accepting each other’s differences is accepting that there are differences and that not every machlokes is sinas chinam.
You are so right, Hashem does hate the fights and the concept of Unity has long disappeared outside of pamphlets and fundraisers. Unfortunately, even tho you are correct that nobody is better, it is not correct that everyone can have their own ways of doing things. Things have to be done k’halacha. Not that it is for us to put down someone else’s avodas Hashem but the line between judging people and judging behavior has become quite invisible.
1)Serve Hashem not because Hashem said so in the torah but serve Hashem out of love as for all hashem does & continues to do 24-7 for each & every one of us. just like you honor & Respect what your parents want cause YOU know how much they did for you from the minute you were born.
May it happen very soon
i am talking about jews who follow halacha but have diffrent hashkafos or ways to go about their avodas hashem, and no one has a right to judge or put down the other persons way, you dont have to agree with it, and you dont have to do it. but you cant talk badly about them and their ways. unfortunately thats whats happening today. Children are being raised with an elitist attitude, that theyre the only ones who are doing the right thing, and everyone else is wrong
And the reason we have so many enemies from the outside is because we have so many “enemies” from within. It’s horrible that we don’t truly have Ahavas Yisroel. Yes – it’s preached all the time. But do we really practice it? Really? With all our hearts? I think we know the answer.
You can phrase that differently: I understand we need to get along, but I think we need to focus on Halacha..
Halacha is the place that says we have to get along… without Halacha, Torah, we have no existence. We are accepting of all those Halachah says we should. ????? ????? ????, notwithstanding that it is a ??? ???? ?????, is but one of our 613.
Little Froggie +100000000
But we can’t focus on halacha as a way to decide who to look down our noses to. If someone who doesn’t cover their hair is sick in the hospital, if someone who shakes hands with women is in need of food, if someone who does not adequately cover themselves is in need of direction we are obligated to provide them. We are obligated to be respectful. We are obligated to say hello and greet them. We are obligated. We can focus on halacha when we chose neighbors and peers, when we accept meal invites and play dates, but when we are talking about the average community member who isn’t advertising open orthodoxy shiurim in their living room, we have obligations to respect and be respectful. Looking for reasons not to is a slippery slope.
(yes, this is per rabbinical direction)
Syag, Halachah DOES say who not to be respectful of. There IS a Shulchan Aruch and one must follow it. Otherwise we are not doing HaSHem’s ratzon, only our perverted, biased feelings. It is Halacha that mandates Ahavas Yisroel for those even not fully committed as long as they’re not reshaim, as long as they’re ???? ?????. To love and regard someone who is not, someone who is ??? ???? ????? as with any other Torah practicing Jew, is wrong, as the Chofetz Chaim writes, ???? ??????. So it is our Halacha which decides Halachos, Ahavas Yisroel included. Otherwise it is not ahavs yisroel, rather a secular culture code of manners. While maybe nice, nothing Jewish.
Syag – We should never “look down our noses” at anyone. Who are we to judge? Hashem is the only Judge.
We need more Ahavas Yisroel. Period!
It’s a good idea to remember that “halachah” is not monolithic. In addition to being accepting and loving of others who don’t “observe halachah” the way “they should” , there needs to be recognition of the many interpretations of what “they should” means. Rav Ovadiah and Rav Elyashiv, two halachic powerhouses by any standard , both forbade human hair sheitels. Both said that it is as if these women do not cover their hair at all. Are the women in Flatbush, Monsey and Lakewood not obeying the halachah the way they should? Were these two great poskim unaware of the “real halachah”? Slippery slopes are relative and quite subjective. Let’s be more careful in both directions.
lf – in your push to confirm who we are careful not to befriend I believe you missed both my point, and the OP’s.
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We do have unity. We are all arguers. LOL In fact, if our arguments are l’shem Shemayim they will be established.
Nothing more needs to be said.
I think it’s more about not judging others so much. We judge everyone all the time, all day, what they wear, how they act, even people in your own family. We need to STOP.
Only then the geula can come
LF: That is a massive Machlokes Rishonim and Achronim about the nature and purpose of Bein Adam L’Chaveiro. What you wrote is not agreed-upon at all.
I have no push other than to do Ratzon HaShem.
My point is and was that while HaShem does want us to get along with one another, nothing trumps Halacha. Statements like “we cant let Halacha decide who to love..” or “all HaShem cares for is Ahavs Yisroel, the rest is nonsense” (ok nobody wrote that) is a slippery slope. As you in fact wrote at the end of your piece – “this is per rabbinical direction”. Halacha decides when and where to apply, to overlook, to be machmir, to be meikel.
If your point was that we can’t let halacha ADHERENCE to decide, then yes, of course you’re right. You just should have been clearer. But know, even in this case, there are sometimes when one does certain things, with certain attitudes, that make one “outside the camp”. Some are black on white, others in the grey…
or “all HaShem cares for is Ahavs Yisroel, the rest is nonsense” (ok nobody wrote that)
case closed
Little Froggie,
Statements like “we cant let Halacha decide who to love..” or “all HaShem cares for is Ahavs Yisroel, the rest is nonsense” (ok nobody wrote that) is a slippery slope.
Nobody wrote either statement you put into quotations, so why are you addressing them at all?
I don’t think your point is wrong per se, but it is misplaced. Kind of like if somebody opened up a thread about suggestions for how to improve their marriage, and someone came in and posted that divorce is permissible according to halacha.
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