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Of all the common pets, a dog is the most rewarding, but it’s also the hardest to take care of. On the other hand, almost as rewarding but with much less responsibility, your friend’s dog is all around the best pet ever. But in order for someone to have a friend’s dog, their friends have to have a dog. Be kind. Adopt a dog today.
Not so simple in halacha to own a dog. Even if it were when people think of “chesed” in terms of owning dogs you see why in haskafa people are so opposed to it.
(My father asked one of the major poskim in the US 50 years about owning a dog as a pet. He said that the Mishna and later sources in halacha who say you aren’t allowed to own a dog aren’t referring to American domesticated dogs but an Erlicher Yid does not have pet dogs. Before you start spewing your daas baal habos about that realize that you don’t reach his toenails in Torah knowledge)
Dogs are let through into the coffee room, but not updated torah questions and threads. Interesting.
Great idea!
When can I (and my kids) come play with your dog?Bava Kama, page 83A,:
Once, a pregnant woman went to bake in the house of another person.
A dog in the house barked at her, so the owner assured her:
Do not worry, his teeth were removed!She said to him: It is too late for your reassurances.
Take your favors and throw them on the thorns!
The fetus has already died.======================================
Rambam’s Hilchot Nizikei Mamon, chapter 5, paragraph 9:
The chachamim prohibited the raising of pigs, in every place,
and also dogs, unless it is restrained with a chain…
and the chachamim said:
Those who raise dogs or pigs should be cursed,
because they often cause damage..ואמרו חכמים: ארור מגדל כלבים וחזירים מפני שהזיקן מרובה ומצוי
Your Dog Doesn’t Love You by Rabbi Yonason Goldson
http://jewishworldreview.com/0516/goldson_pet_loving.php3Dogs are emotionally shallow. Intelligent people have cats.
Also, the Talmud clearly dislikes dogs:
Yoma 53b
Yoma 83a
Yevamos 59b
Kesuvos 41b
Bava Kamma 15b
Bava Kamma 79bAnd favors cats:
Shabbos 128b
Pesachim 112b“Adopt a dog today”, forget the dog, adopt a Troll
I’d rather be in this thread than in the one about presidential candidates.
In Horayos 13a the Talmud says the reason people like dogs and not cats is because cats eat mice which have bad traits.
There are some serious halachic issues about owning pets. Are pets muktze on shabbos? there are two contemporary opinions. Can you walk your dog with a leash on shabbos? If you have a small dog that is low to the ground and no eruv, its not so pashut. What about food? Can you feed the dog trief is it has bassar bcholov? No. What about chometz on pesach. What about picking up the poo on shabbos? is this allowed or not? again, two differing contemporary opinions. What if your dog scares others? Its a problem in Halocho. What about castrating the dog? Not really allowed. What about tzaar baalei chayim? you also halachacly need to feed your dog before you eat. For the busy frum yid, its not so pashut. So while I agree with the OP I also understand why owning a dog as a frum yid is not so simple and its really not for everyone.
besalel, good questions on your list are:
> What if your dog scares others? Its a problem in Halocho.
of course, you should not have a dog that scares
> What about castrating the dog? Not really allowed
There are 50% of dogs
> What about tzaar baalei chayim?
hopefully, you train your kids to be nice to the dogs. Hopefully, they’ll transfer this skill to humans
> feed your dog before you eat. For the busy frum yid, its not so pashut.
well, feeding kids for a busy yid is also not pashut.this is what you wrote “I am a Roman Catholic. No, no, I do not believe that Jesus was our savior nor do I believe him to be the son of God. I certainly do not believe in the Holy Ghost and, to be honest, I am not really sure what that even is. But believe me (as our President is want to say) I am a Catholic.”
so are you Jewish or Catholic”
I had two dogs growing up. I love dogs.
Alas, it’s not really possible for me to adopt one now.
The Wolf
If you are looking for unconditional love with minimal baggage, consider a goldfish. Also, consider the potential secondary opportunities in case of unrequited love including sushi and a one of the great recipes for Ungarishe gefilte fish .
do you want to be picking up the mess all day ?
The Wolf: Why isn’t it possible currently?
commonsaychel: that was a silly post i wrote to highlight how absurd the reform claim to judaism was. i thought most people will have the common saychel to figure that out.
If I remember correctly, one Rabbi said that
a Jew should not have a dog in his house,
if the dog will scare aware poor people
who come to collect tzedakah.Sorry, I do not remember the name of the Rabbi.
Rebyid,
“I have a strong fear of the absence of dogs and I don’t stop at people’s houses if they don’t have one.“
You’re supposed to give us reasons to have a dog, not to not have a dog
If you truly desire to do a great chesed,
then forget about adopting animals,
and instead adopt a Jewish orphan,
or a Baal Teshivah or a sincere Gair Tzedek.The Wolf: Why isn’t it possible currently?
I don’t know if I’ll have the long-term health and strength to properly care for a dog. I’m doing okay now, but there are few guarantees…
The Wolf
Obviously, Jews, like everyone else, lived in close proximity with animals, from dogs to cows to donkeys to goats and chickens … As long as you follow relevant halochos, you can have an animal. So, the only question is whether the current use as a pet justifies the effort as much as owning a donkey to carry things justified it in previous centuries.
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