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I have recently noticed someone stuck in their call, the driver told me she is out of gas. She asked if I know Chaveirems phone number, as I was looking it up on my phone, a chaveirim member pulled up, asked what the issue is, then got some gasoline from his van.
I don’t recall him asking the driver for any money.
I have recently noticed someone stuck in their call, the driver told me she is out of gas. She asked if I know Chaveirems phone number, as I was looking it up on my phone, a chaveirim member pulled up, asked what the issue is, then got some gasoline from his van.
I don’t recall him asking the driver for any money.
With Hatzolah, there are people that are at the doctors office, the doctor tells them they should go to the hospital for further testing etc.
Patient goes home, eats and gets ready, once ready calls hatzolah stating that they have to go to the hospital.
I really think that this person did not think, that there are people that actually people that dropped everything thinking that there is a medical emergency.
1. Its hard to believe that ppl do that to Hatzolah,
#2 the only reason some1 would do that is cuz
then Hatzolah makes sure u get treated right
away.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
I have a family member on Hatzolah.
I can say that this gets done on a daily basis.
Anything from stiches, broken hand, exrays… all abuse Hatzolah as a Free taxi service.
Found much more in the chasidish non-driving community.
Know what else is abuse? When you call Chaverim to do something just because you’re lazy or don’t want to get dirty doing it.
What about Hatzalah abuse? There is no reason to pull an ambulance away from a potential pikuach nefesh situation because you are uncomfortable taking a taxi to the hospital to give birth. My aunt was a dispatcher and she said that the worst call she ever got was a woman hysterically screaming into the phone in Yiddish (which my aunt was not fluent in). After the volunteers arrived at her house, they found a kid with a comb tangled in his peyos on Erev Shabbos. That was all.
When you get to an ER by ANY ambulance you are triaged right away. If your complaint is minor, you’ll wait. However, my sister was A.D. ER nurse for many years and more than one rookie Hatzolla EMT tried to tell her how to do her job
I think it is because people do not realize what they are doing when they are calling Hatzolah.
Hatzolah is a great organization, they are here for our emergencies or for patients that cannot get to the hospital without an ambulance.
Calling Hatzolah for non emergencies, such as when the doctor tells someone with abdominal (and no other symptoms) pain to go to the ER and have it checked out. This is clearly not an emergency (otherwise the doctor would call Hatzolah from his office), it makes no sense to take an ambulance with a full crew out service for this non emergency. (patient could have driven to the ER instead of driving home and calling Hatzolah).
This makes no sense, especially if the patient demands to go to a long distance hospital.
Again, i am not advising anyone not to call, however keep in mind that hatzolah is an organization run by volunteers and are here for emergencies.
Yserbius – that sounds more like a Chaverim job than a hatzola job
lesschumras,
That is not true!
the patient can be sent out to the waiting room and wait in line to get triaged.
Regarding your comment of a rookie EMT telling a nurse how to do her job.
A) if she is a triage nurse, she really has no job other than listening to the EMT and taking vitals..
B) People involved in the healthcare industry should have better attitude, everyone was at one point a rookie, she should have kindly pointed out to the rookie his/her mistake.
So this thread got revived from the dead.
2cents- a member of Chaverim can decide to forgo his charging the money especially when they weren’t called down but rather passed by to help, I would do the same and not charge. I’ve done that too but the policy is there’s a charge. Monsey has a 20 dollar charge too.
I wasn’t saying that its wrong to charge. Obviously there is a valid reason for charging. I was just describing what I saw.
2scents, she had Hatzolla EMTs try to bully her into taking their patients first,regardless of diagnosis. Maimonides tolerated this behavior because they didn’t want the patients to be taken to Methodist
Thats wrong.
I once had a critical patient, unresponsive, with a dangerously low BP. I interrupted the nurses in middle of their ‘meeting’. They were not at all to happy, to bad, I had a priority patient.
EMTs and Paramedics are supposed to be advocates for their patients. Not more than once did I notice the nurse do something wrong, I politely made her aware of it.
SOMETIMES it is recommended to bother Hatzalah to get to the hospital. When an ambulance delivers a patient, the patient does get examined quicker than when walking in. Every case or situation can be unique but even a woman in labor sometimes needs an ambulance not a car sevice.
Chaverim (and Hatzalah) ARE malachim, IMO. We once broke down in an area of town that is not known for being frum-Jew friendly, on a Sunday around 5 PM and could not reach AAA. I called Chaverim, but they were on several other calls and could not reach us. Our battery had died for reasons unknown and all we needed was a boost, but we were reluctant to try flagging anyone down to ask for help.
To complicate matters, we also both have a sugar problem, had not eaten in a few hours and had used up the emergency snack we left in the car(lesson to be learned, folks), and had no idea how long we would be stuck where we were.
All of a sudden, a Hatzalah ambulance pulled up. It seems that CHAVERIM had notified Hatzalah of our situation and told them, if they were not needed on another call, could they stop by and give us a boost (and see if we needed any medical help, which fortunately we did not, as yet). They had jumper cables, boosted us, and we were on our way in a few minutes. We were only 15 minutes from home, during this entire event (no one was home to come help us, or we would have called them). Like I said – MALACHIM. And that’s why I regularly donate to both organizations.
Chaimy, your right. There certainly are times in which Hatzalah should be called, even though its not an emergency. However one should use consideration.
Also, I always tell people that even if its not an emergency, yet you think it ‘might’ be an emergency, call Hatzalah, even if its 3 am.
Oomis, I almost feel like I’ve heard that story before somewhere. Oh, yes, it was on page one of this thread, from two years ago.
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