A way to get Pollard and Rubashkin out

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  • #605313
    ☕️coffee addict
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    make a petition to Romney that the Rabbanim will tell their constituents to vote for him if he signs a guarantee that he would pardon them

    Is there a problem in that, is that considered “buying votes”?

    #900436
    Mammele
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    Remember the Hillary/New Square controversy? And she was only running for senator then. Don’t even think of going there. Besides, the religious Jewish vote is virtually worthless when it comes to electoral votes.

    To answer your question: yes, and it ain’t kosher.

    #900437
    oomis
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    Bribery is bribery, no matter who does it. Pollard and Rubashkin should be freed, because they have not been treated justly, but cruelly.

    #900438
    HaLeiVi
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    There are some more Eitzos, mentioned in “The Talking Coins”, but we aren’t allowed to discuss them yet.

    #900440

    Why don’t we do what everyone always threatens when they want to cut funding for buses and textbooks? Free Pollard or we’ll sign all our kids up for public school and then all of them will be in trouble!

    #900442
    Yeshivishsocrates1
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    Grrr. I think my post deserves posting…

    I think if you post something, and it gets deleted, and then you post it again, and it gets deleted, and then you post it again–you should just go post it on a different website, since after a while the mods are going to get annoyed and block you.

    -95

    #900443
    ZeesKite
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    (Mods get annoyed?!? I thought they had nerves of steel, everlasting patience. Isn’t that a requisite to being a Honored Mod?)

    #900444
    YW Moderator-42
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    My nerves are made of mithril, 95’s nerves are made of steel wool, and popa’s nerves are as strong as a wooden bench.

    The short answer to your question is that we don’t know that the verdicts given in these cases were in fact correct, there are many facts pointing against the verdicts. Even if these people did do “something” wrong they were given unjust punishments and unjust appeal opportunities. As fellow Jews, we must help them.

    Even if they did, in fact, do something wrong – “Keivan she’nikla, achicha hu…”. We don’t have to give them Shlishi when they get out of prison, but we must help them get out.

    #900446
    OneOfMany
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    Oh yeah? I’ve got a Morgul-blade.

    #900447
    besalel
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    rubashkin and pollard and the same in that they both were sentenced for crimes they committed much worse than what justice demands but they are different in that pollard already served the sentence that justice demands while rubashkin has not. it is not fair to pollard to compare him to rubashkin at this point.

    #900448
    vochindik
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    besalel: Neither Pollard nor Rubashkin have completed their unfair sentence. Both should be freed immediately.

    #900449
    yichusdik
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    OOM, if memory serves, the mithril armor was bestowed after the wounding with the morgul blade.

    #900450
    oomis
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    Pollard and Rubashkin are ensconced in jail, and the murderers and rapists, not to mention drug dealers are all out on the street, serving little or no time. Yeah, I feel safer already.

    #900452
    OneOfMany
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    Lol you are right, but I bet you twenty bucks it could pierce mithril.

    Anyhow, my nerves are made of mythril. ^_^

    #900453
    YW Moderator-42
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    In the 4th age, Gandalf the White was replaced by OneOfMany the Purple who was able to create lightning by raising her eyebrows. ^_^

    #900454
    OneOfMany
    Participant

    And who was also an expert dual wielder of the legendary Vorpal and Morgul blades. ^_^

    #900455
    WIY
    Member

    Amazing the direction this thread has headed in. Nobody could have predicted this!

    #900456
    OneOfMany
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    eheheheheh. ^_^

    #900459
    Toi
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    storm an embassy

    #900460

    Toi: The last time that we tried that, it resulted in Kristalnacht.

    #900461

    You’ll be pleased to find out, Oomis, that young Black people in New York can get stopped, manhandled and frisked without committing any crime at all. So you can feel at least somewhat safe.

    Also, while it’s easy to pretend that there’s some sort of vendetta against frum people, there’s also a non-trivial case to be made that Pollard essentially handed over American tactical secrets to the Russians at the height of the cold war. Now that Putin is restoring the Russian autocracy, you probably are safer with him behind bars.

    #900462
    Toi
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    because i was clearly serious

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