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  • #2293888
    lakewhut
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    Now that adirei hatorah is over it’s time for a summer of overindulgences with booze flowing, $300 steaks, spoiling kids, and men and women shmoozing a bit more comfortably than they would in their hometown in the bungalows. Are we forgetting that Israel is at war or are we carrying on as normal into another Tisha b’av? Enjoy the relaxation but don’t forget the big picture.

    #2294100
    YITZCHOK2
    Participant

    sorry you are having a bad day and you just spout silliness.

    #2294143
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    In one Chareidi neighborhood, that I will not specify to avoid Lashon HaRa,
    there is store that specializes in selling kosher wines and liquors.
    The customers of this store are almost-all Chareidim.

    Around five years ago, ONE BOTTLE of liquor in that store was priced at $500.
    Since that was five years ago, I do not know what the price is now
    for the most expensive bottle of kosher liquor.

    #2294170
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @SR “The WORST Sugary Drink is SODA, which contains both large amounts of sugar and ACID, which both attack teeth to cause cavities, and also attack bones. In the early 2000s, SODA was #1 on the list of foods that kill people.” and that only cost $2

    #2294173
    pekak
    Participant

    Lakewood has Bein hazmanim from Tisha B’Av till Rosh Chodesh Elul. Very few “Adirei HaTorah” types are in bungalow colonies.

    #2294183
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    Square Root: What is so unusual for a bottle of vintage wine or artisanal whiskey, liquor etc. to sell for $500+?? Several kosher restaurants in both NYC and Tel Aviv have rare wines listed in the hundreds of dollars on the wine lists.

    Also, some Chareidim are very well off and can easily afford a$500 bottle for a special occasion and don’t need musar from social media about whether they should be wasting their money on gashmius rather than giving more tzadakah.

    #2294201
    skripka
    Participant

    So Chananya, What you’re telling me is that there is a chareidi wine store in a chareidi neighborhood that specializes in SELLING KOSHER WINES AND LIQUORS, AND THE CUSTOMERS ARE CHAREIDIM!!!?????

    Stop the presses, hold the back page!

    #2294215
    opinionated-2
    Participant

    Spoiling kids is all year round. People are so afraid of their kids.

    #2294218
    Chaim87
    Participant

    @lakewhut
    Did we forget that this world is temporary and we aren’t here forever when we pursue all this ostentatious lifestyles?

    #2294219
    Kuvult
    Participant

    I sit on my porch watching the kinderlach play looking out for any breaches in proper conduct. With a yard stick in hand I observe & observe some more. A kid eating their 3rd icepop today, WHACK! Don’t you know the war in Israel only permits 2 ice pops a day?
    A boy playing basketball for 10 minutes, WHACK! Don’t you know the war in Israel only permits 8 minutes of basketball?
    One boy was riding by so when he got close I stuck my yard stick into his front tire. He flew like a drunk chicken & hit the ground like a sack of bricks. One thing is certain. If he ever gets released from the hospital he won’t ride his bike while Israel is at war.
    It’s been tougher lately to do my duty since I’m wearing my court ordered ankle bracelet monitor. But I am allowed to stand on my porch where I can at least use a megaphone to tell them the correct way to act.

    #2294283
    Yussel
    Participant

    If all the Nevi’im during Bayis Rishon couldn’t wake up the Yidden of that time and avoid the Churban; If Chazal during Bayis Sheini couldn’t wake up those Yidden to avoid a SECOND Churban, then what makes you think YOU can?

    #2294571
    Sam Klein
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    Pekak

    Lakewood changed and now doesn’t have any bein hazemanim. As soon as Tisha B’av is over they give you a Danish and start Yarchei Kallah. As soon as Yom Kippur is over they give you a Danish and give you four days to learn Masechtas Sukkah for the Yom tov of Sukkos.

    #2294705
    pekak
    Participant

    Yarchei Kallah is NOT the Lakewood oilam. BMG’S involvement is negligible.

    #2294810
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    “Yarchei Kallah is NOT the Lakewood oilam. BMG’S involvement is negligible”

    Huhh?? BMG sponsors an annual Yarchi Kallah for all the ehrliche Litvish farmworkers in south Jersey….I can’t post the link but it says in part::

    “….Beth Medrash Govoha is proud to host its Annual Yarchei Kallah – providing the perfect setting to totally engage oneself in Torah study, and ultimately to come away with practical applications of Halachic issues that arise in contemporary times, while basking in the light of today’s Reishei Kallah…..

    #2294887
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @SamKlein, Danishes are som hamoves according to Square root

    #2294901
    pekak
    Participant

    I’ve been there. The summer Yarchei Kallah uses the BMG facilities but BMG hasn’t been involved for nearly two decades.

    #2295556
    Pinchas Butter
    Participant

    It’s year-round.
    In the winter there are $800 moose-knuckle coats ………..

    #2295569
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @ Pinchas Butter It’s tough, first a girl has to endure the degrading shidduch process which favors the boy and then she toils as a Morah for a a minuscule salary The GOOD NEWS IS – HASHEM IS ON HER SIDE ! Ha-Elokim Yevukash Es Hanirdaf

    #2295574
    yechiell
    Participant

    you would think that since chareidim (until now) were exempt from military service, they would donate 100 times the amount of time and money to the israeli charities . instead , they’re busy with $100 wine bottles. feh !

    #2296029
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Common Saychel: Some boys have it easier with shidduchim,
    but ONLY if they fit: a very specific age, and a very specific yichus,
    and a very specific educational background, and a very specific
    way of dressing, and a very specific hashkafah.

    I assure that many Jewish men suffer a hard time with shidduchim,
    including: short boys, fat boys, ugly boys, gairim and their children,
    Baalei Teshuvah and their children, Sephardic Jews, poor Jews,
    older men, divorced men, disabled men, and any man whose
    reputation has been destroyed by rumors.

    #2296285
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    “I assure that many Jewish men suffer a hard time with shidduchim, including……”

    So do girls with the same negatives, but somehow, both the vast percentage of boys and girls ultimately find a shiduch unless they are truly dysfunctional and set non-attainable criteria for their beschert. Yes, there are some sad stories but there always have been and will be..

    #2306685
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    This short article recently appeared on www (dot) matzav (dot) com:

    “In a new letter, Rav Avrohom Schorr, the Rov of Khal Nezer Gedalyahu in Flatbush,
    expressed deep dismay over the increasing extravagance observed at
    Friday Toameha gatherings and at Kiddushim on Shabbos,
    particularly highlighting the excessive drinking of alcohol
    and the lavish spending associated with these events.

    The letter, penned on Erev Shabbos Nachamu to members of his bais medrash,
    serves as a clarion call for a return to the core values of simplicity and modesty.

    Rav Schorr pointed out that the opulence of these events,
    especially the overindulgence in alcohol,
    not only shifts the focus from the spiritual and communal aspects of Shabbos
    but also exacerbates financial pressures on families.
    In light of the current economic challenges faced by many,
    he emphasized that such overspending is particularly egregious.

    Moreover, Rav Schorr noted that Toameha gatherings do not have any halachic significance.”

    Jack Addes made this comment:

    “Yeshivos can’t meet payroll obligations at the same time
    that we’re making these lavish enjoyment times.
    Rich people are allowed to spend their money as they wish,
    but when their children’s mosdos are behind in paying
    their children’s moros and rebbees,
    this might be the time for introspection and recalibration.”

    Anonymous made this comment:

    Especially when it has led to destructive behavior such as
    driving drunk and killing people (for anyone who is paying attention)
    just amazing how we mask idiotic behavior by giving it a name
    that makes it sound like a mitzva; all you have to do
    is check their overall attitude towards Mitzvos that don’t “taste good”

    SOURCE: article titled:
    Rav Avrohom Schorr Calls Out Excessiveness
    at Kiddushim and Toameha Gatherings

    from 2024 August 17 www (dot) matzav (dot) com

    #2306911
    Ex-CTLawyer
    Participant

    @SquareRoot

    Not all shuls allow this overindulgence regarding alcohol.
    As CR members know, I remarried and moved to NY.
    My new shul does not allow alcohol at Kiddush. The shul Rav makes the public Kiddush on grape juice.
    I asked about this policy when I wanted to make a Kiddush to celebrate my marriage. I was told that since this was a personal simcha I was permitted to bring in one bottle of alcohol and had to have an official pourer to make sure no teens or children had any.
    After the Kiddush the shammes tied what was left of the bottle in a plastic grocery bag and told me to take it home (there is an eruv) no alcohol is allowed to remain in the shul.

    #2306912
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    @SR, are you a follower of Rav Avrham Schorr? for all shittos? or is this just a random cut and paste?

    #2307010
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Ex-CTLawyer, I am very happy to hear about the wise practices of your new shul.

    #2307135
    pekak
    Participant

    @commonsaychel

    He’s never had an independent thought. Anything and everything that he posts is c/p.

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