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It seems to me that “A Jewish Star” is very not Jewish. It is a singing competition reality show spotlighting Jewish talent. Is this in line with Torah values? Mimicking the TV world. Creating competition, excitement, and jealousy amongst youngsters over such a shallow thing?
What do you think?
jewishness
It is not being done with Daas Torah. I agree with you 1000%.
I don’t think it’s to good. Jewish people shouldn’t want to be like the goyim. Countless times we see in the Torah that our ancestors mixed/assimilated with the goyim and then everything went downfall. Don’t like this
I have heard that the organizers of “A Jewish Star” are planning next year a televised reality show that will be called “Jewish Survivor”, where contestents will have all sorts of “challanges” before they are voted off the island — until there is only one man or woman left standing.
I opened this thread thinking it was about. A magen dovid being un-Jewish. I’m so out of the loop!
The kind of “music” it promotes and the singers who win are always from the fringes of the community. None of the singers who have won have gone on to real success.
TheBearIsBack
Yeah but Im shocked that Avrohom Fried would get involved in such a thing. I was really shocked that he was a judge on the show. Its so not Torahdig to have such a show where you publicly critique embarrass and destroy the self esteem of another Yid.
Please. It might not be a good thing, but the last thing you want is to remind people about that concert ban. The Rabbonim never recovered from that one.
Woops next time be more specific on what a “Jewish star” means to you. And everyoneelse yes it’s a major problem!!!!!!! People really haveto be spoken to
The concert ban was successful. The rabbonim said it has to be cancelled and B”H it was cancelled. It was a Kiddush Hashem how it played out per the Rabbonim’s wishes.
sushee: hilarious!
HaLeiVi
“The Rabbonim never recovered from that one.”
Firstly we now see that the Rabbonim were right back then about that singer. If you have been watching his recent videos you would know what I mean.
Secondly and more importantly, the Rabbonim at that time had no clue that the Tzibbur was holding at such a low point that they would rally behind this singer and talk trash against them! I mean we should be embarrassed that we have such weak emunas chachamim that we side with this “dude” over all the Rabbonim who signed the kol koreh.
I agree that it’s not Jewish. Granted.
You people have no idea what self-esteem is about. If someone has a better voice than you… that’s not an issue of self-esteem. Most people are better than you in some way or another. Self-esteem is when you don’t feel good about yourself for any reason. If a person has a bad voice (like me) but has other good qualities, there is no reason not to have a healthy self image. Good luck to all you people that think that your self image depends on other people liking your voice!
Jewishness- I agree with you!! Hashem made s special in our own ways why to we have to “kiss up” to the goyim? They don’t even appreciate it! That’s how we get ourselves into trouble I.e Jews goig to te thwarted and gymnasiums like Greeks and look at what happens…!!
I want to win it anyhow.
Firstly, I also came here thinking this was referring to the Magen David. Now that I am a little more informed, I am shocked and appalled that there even exists such a thing! Is it being aired on television? It is DEFENITELY not Jewish. This does NOT go according to true Torah values.
1) Is it being aired on television?
2) If not, is it being aired anywhere?
3) Are there female singers as well (if the answer to this is yes, I’m going to go ballistic!)
4) Who is behind all of this?
RP,
1) I think on the internet.
2) see #1
3) No, they officially believe in bein adam laMakom.
4) The satan.
A guy named Mendy Pellin is behind this. He’s a self proclaimed Jewish comedian (he appeared on the Jay Leno show a while back- he also is the one who produced Shwekey’s music video “Cry No More”.
Avraham Fried will not be a judge this year. He just happens to live in the same neighborhood as the organizers, so they asked him to get involved and he obliged. Even if he was paid for it, whatever he got is nothing compared to what he can make for one performance, and he was also subjected to mockery for his decisions.
It says quite a lot that Lipa is the one who is replacing him.
Pellin will also not be judging this year.
The site is a commercial venture by a marketing firm, with which Pellin has no connection at all. Pellin, for all his shtick, is, like Fried, a frum Yid. The organizers appeal to a modern audience. An erlicher singer with talent has no hope of winning, and those who have won have not even made it as wedding singers.
However, a ban will only increase the popularity of this shanda among those to whom it appeals. Let them have their fun; the contest will burn out on its own in due time.
I think it is just us competing with the goyim in america…
I don’t think that there was anything wrong with sharing my personal opinion…
i think a jewish stars an amazing opportunity for jewish kids, teens, and men to show their talent and have kosher entertainment!! i dont see anything wrong with it.. whats better? edon, a nice jewish boy, competing in americas got talent or a jewish star??
snowbunny3318
The problem is that we know that the “goyim” have such a show in the first place. If we would live the way we should we would have never heard of American Idol et al. I speak to myself as well when I say this…
I am not sure.
It’s so inappropriate! they shouldn’t be doing it!
If you are on the madrega where you only listen to chabad nigunim, OK this is not for you. But think of all the many young people who are addicted to non-Jewish music. Maybe this will get them to give Jewish music another look.
WIY, the reason why people are bringing up the show is because it is possible one was nichshal many years ago and has since done teshuva. Ever crossed your mind that could be the case?
Git
My point is that the people behind the show are heavily influenced by non Jewish entertainment and quite obviously look up to what the non Jews do and want to be like them. The producers are not relying on Daas Torah but rather on their own warped Daas. Im happy Avraham Fried left the show. He is too good for that.
arifree-
good point.. u shud jus know how many by girls listen 2 english music, sadly.. im not saying im a saint bt aiming 4 it!!
Almost my whole entire grade listens to not jewish music at by. I also do but, i like both the same. But, I like Jewish music better because it has meaning and not jewish doesn’t.
Batsheva
I hope you are exaggerating. If not, is this a school like machon, BY of boro park or a more “cool” type of school?
no personal infooo pls!!! my current grades actually very good abt it bt my old grade was like 75%… its rlly good for me in my hs spritually i gess!!
In the yeshivas I went to, Rebbes routinely publicly embarrassed beat and bullied kids. In sixth grade , for example., I approached the Rebbe and told him I able daven with full kavanah for half of shachris. Instead of Chizuk , he called me to the front of the class and ridiculed me having kavanah for only half. Did wonders for my davening
Lesschumras- feel for you and know what yourgoing thru unfortunaley
lesschumras
Coincidentally, my 6th grade Rebbe was also in the wrong field of work.
Hey, jewishness, what do you think your comment did to my self-esteem?
Kids, and adults, compete in this world. It’s important to feel good about yourself. Everyone must understand that there are and will always be winners and losers. Teach your kids and teach yourself that so that you know going in that there is a good chance that you’ll lose, but the competition is fun!!
I agree that it’s not Jewish. And I think that you are beginning to agree that it’s not the worst thing for self-esteem.
What do you mean by Golden Calf?
ahh just founnd out i know someone who just audiotioned!!omg!! i hope he wins!! hes in the adult competiotion…
Is “idolization” the same as serving idols? I think not.
funnybone
It is a resemblance of idol worship because you tend to just focus on how amazing the person is and cut Hashem out of the picture, because the more you focus on Hashem the less you would ever idolize anybody. I actually dont know the Halacha but hashkafically it looks bad.
Is it wrong to idolize Deli 52’s overnight potato kugel?!
i sure hope nobody does.. i wud call that food obbsesion..
Maybe I’m slow, but I only just saw the Youtube videos of A Jewish Star 2013 last night, and… I was really upset.
The format is identical to non-Jewish shows (which shall remain nameless). The judges are clearly aware of this and do their best to mimic the attitudes of their counterparts on the non-Jewish shoes. This includes laughing at at least one of the singers (who had to wait 4 hours for the privilege) or offering sharp critiques of their pitch, tone etc (this is somewhat pathetic considering that none of the 3 judges are known for the musical quality of their voices.)
At first I cringed at how corny the show is, and how obvious it is to anyone who has watched the non-Jewish shoes how desperately they are trying to copy it. One contestant (from Manchester, UK) even *proudly* introduces himself as having had an audition for such a contest.
As the show progressed, my feelings of embarrassedment turned to sadness. Simon Cowell and co do not care if they crush someone’s self esteem. On the contrary, it makes better TV viewing and brings in more revenue. (It has been alleged that some contestants are chosen purely on this basis, the judges knowing how everyone will laugh at them). This tiny Jewish contest has a very limited audience, the revenue must be very small. Why do they need the shock value? What do they gain by humiliating fellow Jews?
Really upset about it, so much so that I have decided against buying the latest CD of one of the judges. Not because I want to hurt his pocket – I just don’t feel comfortable listening to him anymore.
My neighbor made it into the finals of the first season- he loved it, his whole family was campaigning for him, and I thought it was shticky and corny, but okay, if there’s an audience.
Then I watched an episode of the newer season, and I was in utter shock. Doesn’t “hamalbin pnei chaveiro berabim” lose his portion in olam haba? I’ve seen episodes of the real shows, and you could so tell that they were directly modeling it after one of them. Come on people, so they do it- don’t you want to be better than them? It was absolutely horrifying.
NEVER watching that again.
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