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Proof from Bechoros 2a, Rashi d’h Rabbi Yehuda permits selling an animal with a broken foot to a non-Jew only in a place where there is no suspicion that the non-Jew will use the animal for a (disgusting) sin. We see from here a strong reason not to vote for a liberal politician even if they will help our finances.
Clearly its not Halacha L’Meisah as we have fine tuned a system of benefits for votes.
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money” – Maragert Thatcher
Are non jews today suspected of this sin?
It’s because it would be lifnei iver. There are pages in Avodah Zarah which deal with this. Lifnei iver applies with regard to non-Jews as well.
And kol shekein a frum yid should shut down a website rather than being machshil others.
Are they suspect of this sin today?
I don’t think so. It’s not a question of suspect, it’s a question of being able to assume that they will do it. Therefore I do not believe it applies in our society.
Why not? If anything people have become even more sick than ever before..
apushatayid
No, I asked a Rav and was told that this din as well as a male having Yichud with a male non Jew (the Rambam says the average non Jew is Chashud on homosexuality) is not applicable today. (Unless you know that the person is a depraved low life or homosexual and then you have what to be concerned about so ask your Rav)
skiaddict –
Lifnei iver is only when there is a very high probability that your action will cause a bad thing to be done. Even though there are some depraved people, most do not stoop this low.
WIY, what about Shfichas Domim?
Toeva marriages have not extended to horses just yet.
Many jewelry shops owned by frum people sell crosses to goyim. It’s muttar because they are not worshipped, but it’s mechuar. Should people stop selling crosses? Also, frum electronic stores sell many devices that can lead people to sin. Are they allowed to do so?
littleapple –
I should have been more clear. I meant high probability as in at least a majority of cases, and even that possibly isn’t sufficient to establish the issur of lifnei iver.
Obviously as common as “toeiva marriages” are they have not reached that level and won’t reach it anytime soon. And as apushatayid points out, we are talking about something far less common than even that.
littleapple –
Do you think b’zman hagemara more than a majority of goyim were chashud on this and now they are not?
Absolutely. Historically these are the facts.
As for politics, I don’t know the situation (I’m not from the district and I don’t follow its politics). But I’m sure there are arguments either way.
little, you know in which country the Amoraim lived. It’s not that far fetched there now, either.
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